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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The GOP has had six years to show any signs of wanting to cooperate on anything.
    Kind of hard to cooperate with someone when they don't ever meet. I think Obama and McConnell has met like twice in six years. Look If Obama wanted to work with Republicans, he would of had 360 some bills sitting in purgatory on Reid's desk, or for that matter, would of gotten some bipartisan cooperation on Healthcare.

    Compromise isn't about "Let's just do what I want that you want" It's about doing something that you don't want, and then the other guy following.

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And all the while one of the highest polling results, almost unanimously among all the demographics, is not to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

    I can see that Obama's perception of reality and the mood of the electorate is as accurate as ever. (*sarcasm*)

    No, I don't think that this'll get very far. Sure, he may issue the EO, but there'll be so much pressure for the government agencies to not follow it, court ordered injunction until it's decided, and further legal battles, that it'll be little more than a paper tiger, a political stunt.

    Yeah, I can hear Obama now 'I wanted to do something, but the nasty, racist, old white men of the Republican party stopped me'. As if even the Latino-Americans aren't going to see through this bit of political theater.

    No, I'm of the opinion that if Obama does this, he'll just lose more than he'd gain.
    He's a lame duck President with nothing to lose......he will try to pick up that 'all important' Hispanic vote for the Dems.......and ignore the White vote

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by northwinds View Post
    He's a lame duck President with nothing to lose......he will try to pick up that 'all important' Hispanic vote for the Dems.......and ignore the White vote
    Who needs congress when the next king (or queen) can take over the phone and pen that run the country?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Dang.....

    This will..... be bad, methinks.





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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Not just the GOP, mind you. Harry Reid wouldn't even bring bipartisan bills to a vote on the Senate floor. He twisted the rules as much as he could to prevent anything from actually being voted on.
    Deuce doesn't hear you, he's blown away that the country rejected his Dear Leaders plans.
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    None! Which is why articles of impeachment should be drawn up a few minutes after he announces the executive order has been signed.
    That's what should happen, but it won't. There's no will in Congress for something like that.
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And all the while one of the highest polling results, almost unanimously among all the demographics, is not to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

    I can see that Obama's perception of reality and the mood of the electorate is as accurate as ever. (*sarcasm*)
    Yup.

    No, I don't think that this'll get very far. Sure, he may issue the EO, but there'll be so much pressure for the government agencies to not follow it, court ordered injunction until it's decided, and further legal battles, that it'll be little more than a paper tiger, a political stunt.
    :raises eyebrow: while that might be nice, what mechanism do you see providing that forcing function? Congressional impeachment of presidential appointees?

    Yeah, I can hear Obama now 'I wanted to do something, but the nasty, racist, old white men of the Republican party stopped me'. As if even the Latino-Americans aren't going to see through this bit of political theater.
    I doubt it. It took women some time to start to see through the War on Women BS, and even then, that required some idiotic abuses by Democrat candidates. Blacks still overwhelmingly believe that the reason republicans oppose the President's policies is because they are a bunch of racists. Demagougery works. That's why the Founders warned us against it.

    No, I'm of the opinion that if Obama does this, he'll just lose more than he'd gain.
    I just don't see what he has to lose.

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yup. I am sure it is really going to hurt Obama's reelection chances if he vetoes legislation and he cares a whole lot about how it affects his party given how they stood by him during the midterm.

    Oh wait...
    Oh I have no doubt that Obama gives precisely zero f---s about others at this point. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to discuss masters of repercussion-less congressional non-cooperation, you need to take a look at Mr Reid & Co more than Republicans.

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I don't think Obama will grant Amnesty.... Congress can overturn, and not fund. and they have the manpower to do that.
    How do you not fund not enforcing a law?

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh I have no doubt that Obama gives precisely zero f---s about others at this point. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to discuss masters of repercussion-less congressional non-cooperation, you need to take a look at Mr Reid & Co more than Republicans.
    I do not disagree but it beats wasting time and passing hundreds of bills that have no chance of passing. I just do not see how this election will change anything.

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