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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I don't think Obama will grant Amnesty.... Congress can overturn, and not fund. and they have the manpower to do that.
    Dont know if he will try, but he 'cant' legally. There is established immigration law. The president deosnt have the powe rto usurp law, merely to not enforce law. He can direct no immigration action for the next two years by EO, but he cant order an alteration in the law.

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dont know if he will try, but he 'cant' legally. There is established immigration law. The president deosnt have the powe rto usurp law, merely to not enforce law. He can direct no immigration action for the next two years by EO, but he cant order an alteration in the law.

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    I agree, however what we've seen in this ruling elite consolidation of power, is that sometimes, they do what they aren't allowed. unchecked. random changes to obamacare comes to mind
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    True, but times have changed, and with such a sweeping victory look for the republicans to be much more aggressive. dream act was a landmine, kids, etc.... blanket amnesty, is a pretty safe bet to come out against.
    Perhaps that's the play? Incite an act that is not legally his to make and dare the Republicans to do something about it.... desperate yes but nothing would surprise me. Welcome back Rev!
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Perhaps that's the play? Incite an act that is not legally his to make and dare the Republicans to do something about it.... desperate yes but nothing would surprise me. Welcome back Rev!

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    He's already acted illegally and nothing was done, maybe this time, they will have the balls to stop him from these unilateral acts.
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Dang..... This will..... be bad, methinks. So much for hope of a repeat of the later 1990s where Clinton and Republicans worked together.[/FONT][/COLOR]
    If he does, it will all but spell the end to Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife's campaign chances.

    The great majority of Americans are opposed to amnesty, legalization, and citizenship, as they know it's not only unjust to the millions of Americans harmed by illegal aliens, it will send wage-scales plummeting, while making it nearly impossible to address major-city over-crowding miseries.

    The Republicans will play that up .. and then it will be the Democrats who will be all but "dead".

    If this election showed anything, it's that a great many Americans simply are not married to "their" political party, and if things get bad enough, they'll vote out even people they may have previously voted for.

    Think twice, Mr. President .. or you may be the last Presidential novelty candidate your party will ever successfully field.
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Dang.....

    This will..... be bad, methinks.





    So much for hope of a repeat of the later 1990s where Clinton and Republicans worked together.[/FONT][/COLOR]
    Well isn't he the petty little one.

    I'm going to guess the leaders in the Democratic Party are going to find a way to stop him from being petty and petulant. He will only damage the party even more than he has, and we all know they are already looking at 2016, as they should be.
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Hate to break it but immigration reform does not always equal amnesty. I'll wait to hear the reform plan first before jumping to the conclusion it will be amnesty. Obama likes to talk big on immigration then back down, can't wait to see what he proposes and then everyone's head explode.


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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dont know if he will try, but he 'cant' legally. There is established immigration law. The president deosnt have the powe rto usurp law, merely to not enforce law. He can direct no immigration action for the next two years by EO, but he cant order an alteration in the law.
    According to Obama, he can do whatever he wants. He's a narcissistic SOB who just had his ass handed to him. And now, he's a wounded animal being crowded into a corner. He's more dangerous then he's ever been.

    All i can say is God help us all.

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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I don't think he'll go that far. He has to know at this point the electorate is not with him anymore and any attempts to drag the country further to the left will undermine Democrats 2016. I'm guessing the next 2 years will be "cool" but not "cold" with a few token gestures of bipartisanship and not too many waves as the Democrats regroup for the next election.

    Sorry but I disagree. I don't think Obama actually cares about the Dems. And why should he? They no longer have the power to back him on much of anything. These are Obama's last two years in office no matter what. He doesn't have to run for re-election. He doesn't have to turn for a senate/house position. He'll be making millions off of book deals, interviews etc etc and be getting a life time check every year for what is it...250k? The man is set and doesn't HAVE to worry about the future. He can just try and push things through all he wants regardless of any damage that it may cause. The only thing he has to worry about at this point is getting impeached. And I honestly don't see that happening.
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    Re: Report: Exec amnesty 'no matter how big a shellacking' for dems

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry but I disagree. I don't think Obama actually cares about the Dems. And why should he? They no longer have the power to back him on much of anything. These are Obama's last two years in office no matter what. He doesn't have to run for re-election. He doesn't have to turn for a senate/house position. He'll be making millions off of book deals, interviews etc etc and be getting a life time check every year for what is it...250k? The man is set and doesn't HAVE to worry about the future. He can just try and push things through all he wants regardless of any damage that it may cause. The only thing he has to worry about at this point is getting impeached. And I honestly don't see that happening.
    He should because the only "accomplishment" he could conceivably claim from his Presidency is that he was the President who gave the nation nationalized health care. If he grants some form of amnesty by executive order the Democrats will pay for it in 2016. He would risk handing the GOP the Presidency on a silver platter and giving them an unobstructed path to repealing the one and only thing he can hang his hat on.

    Hell... I guess I hope he does it.

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