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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    "Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."
    As I suspectedd, you don't have the quote

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    And too often, parents have no choice but to put their kids in cheaper daycare ...And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It makes no difference who does the paying. The idea that adding "free" daycare (calling it pre-school only increases the cost) makes any given job hire more moms (rather than other workers) still makes no sense. We do not have a shortage of workers in the US that requires more mothers (or fathers) with young children to get out and work more. Rest assured that, just like illegal aliens, they will not only take jobs that "nobody else wants".
    So you said that low-income women can't financially benefit from putting their kids in day care because they have to pay for it, and when I point out that many don't have to pay for it, you say "it doesn't matter"???

    And then you talk about " The idea that adding "free" daycare (calling it pre-school only increases the cost) makes any given job hire more moms" when he was talking about women who already have jobs?

    C'mon ttwtt, even you can see that's not honest
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya HB. There you go and notice when BO talks about Women he doesn't want to have to debate a Woman from the Right.

    Katie Pavlich has no trouble calling him or any of the left out over women's issues. Especially when BO and Team start thinking for them. Lets see them step up to the plate rather than run around and lecture others.
    His hypocrisy is telling. The one thing he could do in a second to correct pay inequity, and he hasn't done it. Words are cheap, and each time he spews a bunch of 'em on this subject, he's cheapening his stock of believability on the issue a little more.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

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    And the choice he was talking about is "her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life"
    That's an assumption.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Those that like the idea of having no responsibility for their children, except for birthing them, will hail this! We're already seeing it. The rest of us will tell them to pedal their garbage elsewhere.

    I remember seeing pictures of the children in Romania and how they suffered as a result of Romanian dictator Ceausesco's decision to do exactly what is being proposed here. He and his wife were executed by firing squad in 1989 - 120 bullets were found in their bodies, BTW, and the people cheered! Just saying....
    Quite rightly so, on all counts. The idea is so foreign that I don't see it taking root here. Clearly, you see hints that it might, but I'm not really seeing that from my experience.

    It'd be the death knell of the country should this come to pass, and it must not be allowed to pass. I agree. We'd have to tell them to peddle their crap elsewhere, where it's accepted. Russia maybe? China? How about North Korea?
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Here's the context



    Note that the only other place he talks about choice is the choice "to put their kids in cheaper daycare.....and that's not a choice we want Americans to make"
    Still an assumption.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    the president made some valid points in that speech
    women should receive equal pay for equal work
    what he did not say is we need stronger unions to make that happen
    women with preschool children do have to choose between going to work and paying child care or staying home and foregoing a wage
    what he did not say is how do we cover the cost of child care for those who need it. nor did he tell us if only some parents will be eligible for this presumed government assistance, or will every home be able to qualify for whatever expanded child care program he has envisioned

    in short, this was a get-out-the-vote speech
    notice he encouraged people to support his ideas ... *wink*wink*vote
    trouble is, those he is trying to reach are probably not going to be tuned in to the whitehouse.gov page to see his appeal

    all that said, i strongly support his half baked proposal
    only thru education - and discipline - will we be able to break the cycle of poverty
    i would rather have that single mother working and earning an income while her child(ren) is/(are) being taught how to behave in a public setting and learning the information they need to become successful elementary school students, than for them to be staying at home with her, absorbing little of value
    also for married mothers of preschoolers, who would expand the family income by working rather than staying home with the little ones
    moms in affluent families can often afford to stay at home and be with their preschool children. it's their choice to sacrifice and pass on additional family income in order care for their kids. and it should remain their choice to opt out if the president's proposal becomes implemented, much like choosing to spend to send kids to private school instead of having them attend public school. that should remain their choice
    my fear is not one of governmental over-reach, but one of inadequate governmental oversight. will this become taxpayer paid child care under the guise of elevating our nation's childrens' education levels, or will we actually impose adequate educational requirements in order to participate as child care givers who receive the government child care subsidy
    and for those moms (or dads) who stay at home, not employed, and want their kids to be in subsidized child care. no ****ing way should that be possible. school or work should be a requirement to be eligible. otherwise, raise your own preschooler
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    As I suspectedd, you don't have the quote

    Here's a quote
    No, what I provided is a quote. What you provided is edited to mash words together.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's an assumption.
    No assumption. It's what he said, and I can quote him saying it, unlike the lies you've posted

    And too often, parents have no choice but to put their kids in cheaper daycare ...And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The idea is to create an endless supply of gov't depended folks, that require an ever growing huge nanny state, to keep them voting for more of their "fair share" of the American pie. Drop out of school, get a McJob (or not) and breed like bunnies - no problem since the huge federal nanny state will make that personal choice (wise decision?) work out just fine. Some need gov't (it takes a village?) to supply that which they would otherwise need to use their own labor to secure; it is best for America's children that way - just ask Obama.
    Hmm, that'd be the path to ruin, that's for sure. Wonder when the order will come for kids to turn in their parents for having differing and not acceptable political opinions?
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