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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Try reading the speech. It was about economics, and women in our economy.

    The op so misportrayed the speech that I don't see how an honest discussion can be had if it is focused on just the two sentences presented in the op.
    It was the same old "war on women" and need to mandate a "living wage" nonsense that is always used to get (ignorant?) voters to believe in a free lunch. Not once did Obama mention how any of this "fairness" would be paid for (higher taxes and prices for goods/services?). Obama even mentioned his own first McJob, carefully leaving out the fact that he did not need to support a "family" with those earnings. The goal is to turn a McJob into a McCareer and to create a solid base of (permanently?) gov't dependent voters.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yes, I agree.. What I find most surprising of that statement, though, is that he is admitting there is far more to the gender gap in wages than I've heard other liberal democrats ever want to acknowledge in the past. In the past, it was always evil employers just wanting to pay them less... Now he acknowledges that a lot of it could have to do with workplace experience/seniority.
    It could be because of stories like this:

    The White House has not narrowed the gap between the average pay of male and female employees since President Obama’s first year in office, according to a Washington Post analysis of new salary data.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:
    Isn't that against breaking news rules?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    "Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."

    Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard


    I can see why you wanted to "editorialize" the headline. The actual headline is absolutely no fun at all if your intention is to cast Obama in a bad light.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
    If you were able to decipher that I'm confident most everyone else was able to wrap their heads around the concept.

    For future people who join the discussion after a moderator inevitably changes the thread title to the correct headline, the original misleading title was "Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do it."
    Last edited by Cardinal; 11-01-14 at 12:15 PM.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    There's no question that Obama believes it'd be better to have the child spend less time in a family environment and more in the control of the community.
    There's just no denying it.
    He just couched it as a gender/pay issue for the impressionable behind and in front of him ... and apparently for some here.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    There's no question that Obama believes it'd be better to have the child spend less time in a family environment and more in the control of the community.
    There's just no denying it.
    He just couched it as a gender/pay issue for the impressionable behind and in front of him ... and apparently for some here.
    Well, like I said: "most" everyone.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Isn't that against breaking news rules?



    I can see why you wanted to "editorialize" the headline. The actual headline is absolutely no fun at all if your intention is to cast Obama in a bad light.



    If you were able to decipher that I'm confident most everyone else was able to wrap their heads around the concept.

    For future people who join the discussion after a moderator inevitably changes the thread title to the correct headline, the original misleading title was "Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do it."
    I think it's pretty clear that what he says is not always what he means...like "If you like your healthcare, you can keep it." But it's pretty clear here....he wants state sponsored schools to raise pre-school aged children, not their moms. That's what he said. In context.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I think it's pretty clear that what he says is not always what he means...like "If you like your healthcare, you can keep it." But it's pretty clear here....he wants state sponsored schools to raise pre-school aged children, not their moms. That's what he said. In context.
    I think you can appreciate the irony of claiming what he said after changing his words to something he didn't say.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think you can appreciate the irony of claiming what he said after changing his words to something he didn't say.
    He did say it. He said he didn't want American moms to stay home and raise kids. He said he wanted state runs schools expanded to include pre-school age children.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah. No sense in making a big deal about a slight misstatement. That's ridiculous . . . Unless of course it's a Republican. Then it's all fair, right?



    The sooner gone the better. I agree with that. The ilk being progressives / liberals. Nothing but needless damage from these people.

    Not sure if women in the workplace is really a liberal doing. Women have been in the workplace more and more ever since they manned the production lines during the WW II mobilization, and a good thing they did, I'm thinking. Once in the workplace, women should get 100% fair and even deal. No special considerations given, and none taken. Equal work for equal pay, something that's escaped even this administration.



    Yeah, as long as it's a liberal / progressive village, complete with Nanny state and liberal / progressive indoctrination as we've come to realize does in fact exist in the public school system.
    Greetings, Erik.

    This crap is getting scary! What he said, or meant to say, is not the issue, IMO. The fact that some are even thinking along these lines is what bothers me. Is this another step in a path they want the populous to get used to, and eventually accept as normal? Total allegiance to the government who knows by some mysterious means what is best for everyone? Many will probably hail this as an advancement in human evolution where everyone becomes a flesh and blood robot, and Orwell will be proven right. Unfortunately, he meant it as a warning of what not to allow to happen!

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    He did say it. He said he didn't want American moms to stay home and raise kids.
    Quote him verbatim. Actual words.

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