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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Maybe he's making a commentary on how our society is inherently sexist as it is the expectation that the mother make such a sacrifice to stay home and raise the kids, while the father tends to be inexplicably immune from this expectation.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    I think that there are plenty of ways to criticize the current administration without resorting to claims that the president wants the state to raise kids instead of their moms based on an out of context quote.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm not sure exactly what Obama is shooting for here, but unless those kids are in an actual 8 hour daycare that he calls "pre-school", his program won't help Mom much.

    But hey, it's a government solution, it'll cost taxpayers more money and it sounds good to the liberal idiots in his audience. Maybe it'll get some Democrat running for Congress a vote or two.
    That assumes that "mom" has a job that requires no commute time (or unpaid lunch time) so let's up that 8 hours to, a more reasonable, at least 10 hours (probably 12 hours for many).
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Maybe he's making a commentary on how our society is inherently sexist as it is the expectation that the mother make such a sacrifice to stay home and raise the kids, while the father tends to be inexplicably immune from this expectation.
    I love it when you talk sexist.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That assumes that "mom" has a job that requires no commute time (or unpaid lunch time) so let's up that 8 hours to, a more reasonable, at least 10 hours (probably 12 hours for many).
    Yeah...it's been a long time since I dealt with daycare...I forgot.

    I used to take my son to daycare on the way to work. I dropped him off at 6am and picked him up at 5:30pm. So 12 hours is more realistic.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Sounds like he tossed everything...including the kitchen sink...against the wall in that speech.

    shrug...

    In any case, this thread is about a particular part of that speech. Let's keep it that way, eh?
    Try reading the speech. It was about economics, and women in our economy.

    The op so misportrayed the speech that I don't see how an honest discussion can be had if it is focused on just the two sentences presented in the op.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:

    "Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."

    Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard

    Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
    Yes, I agree.. What I find most surprising of that statement, though, is that he is admitting there is far more to the gender gap in wages than I've heard other liberal democrats ever want to acknowledge in the past. In the past, it was always evil employers just wanting to pay them less... Now he acknowledges that a lot of it could have to do with workplace experience/seniority.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Try reading the speech. It was about economics, and women in our economy.

    The op so misportrayed the speech that I don't see how an honest discussion can be had if it is focused on just the two sentences presented in the op.
    This thread is about a specific news article in the Breaking News forum. That means the focus of this thread is also very specific.

    Sure, you can go ahead an derail this thread to any of the things Obama tossed out there in his speech. I just think you would be wrong to do so.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I explained that. He wants the state to raise children, not Moms.
    You explained it and the video showed it.
    It was pretty clear.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    This thread is about a specific news article in the Breaking News forum. That means the focus of this thread is also very specific.

    Sure, you can go ahead an derail this thread to any of the things Obama tossed out there in his speech. I just think you would be wrong to do so.
    And if you want to continue discussing a quote that is totally taken out of context, that is of course up to you; I just think you would be wrong to do so.

    I'm not talking about discussing his entire speech (although it was wonderful) but to expand the discussion to include the parts around the quote so it would be discussed accurately.

    but what I am I thinking? this is an internet forum. Accuracy.... isn't that valued.

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