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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So you are admitting, here, that having children and being a stay at home parent is a matter of penalties and consequences.

    My husband and I had children together - last I looked. What consequences is he dealing with for having children?


    Only, I'm unable. I'm not a stay at home parent anymore - kids are all older - he's no longer in the military. We're an aging family now. But no one wants to hire someone who put country and family first for years. Oh they'll hire him in a heartbeat. But me? No.

    There's the imbalance: the social view - society doesn't value the stay at home parent or take us seriously as participants in society. Heck - even you said that it's an acceptable 'consequence' of having children and caring for them adequately.

    Well said! why don't we value parents who stay home and take care of their kids? Oftentimes they are the backbone of our volunteer force, helping at schools and other places. They are raising the future leaders of our country. They allow the breadwinner more flexibility with their employer, allows them to travel if needed and to change careers and whatnot.

    In college, I was the only woman in a particular business class. We were doing a case study about a woman who had stayed home, and supported her hsuband's career by taking care of the children, moving when he got promoted, holding business dinners, etc. He was offered another promotion which required a move - and she said no. The teacher and the class were all saying "yeah, she better get her butt in gear and move, he makes all the money" (to paraphrase). I finally spoke up and pointed out she had been contributing to the family's success as much as he had, and she absolutely had earned the right to have equal input on the decision. The marriage was a partnership.

    THEN the teacher realized what an a*hole he had been and he backed down. But absolutely the stay at home partner is a key part of the family and should be respected and their accomplishments considered as important.

    (As to whether people should get extra help *just* because they are in the military - that's another subject. In general, yes, but to me it depends on what they did, how long they were in there, etc. And of course there are programs for people - well, ok, mainly women - re-entering the workforce offered through colleges and whatnot, so there is some support out there)

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Well said! why don't we value parents who stay home and take care of their kids?
    The fact is that we do value stay-at-home parents, usually the mother, and demonstrate it often.

    If anyone is to blame for this idea that women who stay home are not respected it is the ironically self-named "Women's Liberation Movement", a leftist organization who were politically motivated rather than actually 'liberating' anyone. They continue to demonstrate their indifference to real women's problems today.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    why is the president even talking about moms?

    stick to constitutional governmental issues.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why is the president even talking about moms?

    stick to constitutional governmental issues.
    It's election season, he's a politician, and moms vote. Not really that complicated. What "constitutional governmental issues" should he speak of, and would that get you to vote for him?
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's election season, he's a politician, and moms vote. Not really that complicated. What "constitutional governmental issues" should he speak of, and would that get you to vote for him?
    since i work to stay true to constitutional law, i dont recall any powers of the president, dealing with personal lives of the people for him to speak on.

    governmental issues, ...those which delegated powers

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I don't buy it. In the case of most stay at home mothers and in the case of most jobs, the experience at one has barely anything to do with the experience at the other. A stay at home mother can be a lot of work, but it is (rarely) relatable to industry or job experience.
    Multitasking, management, budget creation, etc are not relatable job experiences?
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    Re: Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:

    "Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."

    Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard

    Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
    As usual Obama opens mouth inserts foot.
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    Re: Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As usual Obama opens mouth inserts foot.
    He actually didn't if you read the full speech. Link is earlier in thread.

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