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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    It seems that you either do not really know or understand the Romania of those days, thus misrepresenting it here.
    How was Romania misrepresented?

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Interesting. Thanks for the links Buck. Seems that idealized life portrayed in 'Leave It to Beaver' had it right after all.

    As a responsible society, so concerned about the kids and all, shouldn't we be looking for ways to have all our moms be stay at home?
    They did have it right, as most parents know, but those days may be gone forever. The Nationalization of the Family :: SteynOnline

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    We purposely do that in our home.. I work days, my wife works part time, evenings and weekends (grocery store).... We do the hand off in between. My wife could make more money by being full time and working more.. . but, in our opinion.. The kids are more important and we are lucky enough to be able to make it work.
    Our kids are now in college, so we've made this decision, but we opted for day care.

    Both are kids are 'good' kids, work hard, honest and with integrity. I think the values are working well for them, and from my view, they'll do well in life.

    Now that we are paying for college, I'm sure glad that we've got both good incomes going.

    Our hope is that it would give our kids a good start, to be debt free for the most part when they start off.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They did have it right, as most parents know, but those days may be gone forever. The Nationalization of the Family :: SteynOnline
    Yeah. An earlier post laid this at the feet of liberals / progressives, but didn't elaborate on their thinking on this. I have to admit that I'm not all that sure if it is or isn't, and am trending more to not anyone's fault, but more the way the society and the modern world evolved, but am willing to listen and consider other viewpoints.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    just another poor attempt at the so called war on women.
    they don't have anything else to run on.

    some women don't want to work and they have the money from their husband to do it.
    we make some sacrifices, but my wife doesn't work anymore and she stays home.

    this is a huge benefit since i have to travel from time to time with work.
    i get to work from home and help take care of the kids.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:

    "Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And thatís not a choice we want Americans to make."

    Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard

    Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...",
    that's simply not what he actually said.


    Anyone can twist and spin anyone else's words to deliver any partisan message that they're trying to deliver.

    But that doesn't change reality.

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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Americans wouldn't have to make that choice if the government didn't cause Mom to have to be in the workplace...in the first place.

    Thanks to almost a hundred years of liberals changing our society, Moms have no choice...they have to work. So what is the liberal solution?...more nanny state.

    Obama...the sooner you and your ilk are gone, the better.
    No - let's not skew things, here.

    For the lifestyle and amenities people feel they need and / or want - the average family has to rely on dual incomes or a gracious single income. So let's not pretend like personal choices and lifestyle don't play into how much it costs to actually live VS live comfortably these days.

    Let's also not forget that government does not control the cost of living or income.

    Perhaps pointing all fingers to the government and not enough fingers to the individuals that make up the US is part of the actual problem, eh?

    Government sets a minimum wage but there's not a single law or rule that REQUIRES businesses to pay that little. Taxes and a few other expenses are all that the Federal government can affect or dictate. Everything else is corporate, individual and state government concerns.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    just another poor attempt at the so called war on women.
    they don't have anything else to run on.
    Yeah, that's pretty apparent.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    some women don't want to work and they have the money from their husband to do it.
    we make some sacrifices, but my wife doesn't work anymore and she stays home.

    this is a huge benefit since i have to travel from time to time with work.
    i get to work from home and help take care of the kids.
    Nice. Yeah, working from home can be such a boon to quality of life and work / life balance. Funny that business is swinging back away from it.
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    just another poor attempt at the so called war on women.
    they don't have anything else to run on.

    some women don't want to work and they have the money from their husband to do it.
    we make some sacrifices, but my wife doesn't work anymore and she stays home.

    this is a huge benefit since i have to travel from time to time with work.
    i get to work from home and help take care of the kids.
    ? You think it's just a matter of women not wanting to work?

    Between my husband's demanding job in the military which often left me as the only parent around here; all the kids and their many ailments, injuries, and issues; and my own illnesses when I was pregnant as well as a lack of reliable childcare in the past when I was working - it was a painful decision for me to make.

    It wasn't that I didn't want to work.

    All too often women who choose to stay-at-home DO want to work. Instead, they end up having to be a family coupon instead.

    And once you're out of work for a while you're pretty much dead to the employment world. I'm not longer a sahm - My youngest has been in school for years. However, I've yet to find adequate employment. People see a job-gap and though I haven't been a laze-about-bum this entire time that means very little.

    And for some reason, now, even my husband doesn't seem to understand this. A lot of people just seem to not understand everything that goes into the decision and reason - not only in the beginning but later on when you make hard choices, again.

    Every time I talk about job-hunting my husband actually makes a joke about it or asks some silly thing like "you sure you want to do that" [Right - because almost going bankrupt because he's medically retired from the military and unable to work himself is so much better than me working]
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    Re: Obama doesn't want Moms staying home to raise their kids. Wants the state to do i

    Is it me or did this speech come across like if you are a woman with children it's like some albatross that keeps her from ever achieving a goal of a good paying job if she stays home with her children? So we need to collectively provide pre-kindergarten schools in our public school systems so that she will have the opportunity to fulfill her potential in the workforce? Am I understanding this correctly? As long as mom took the personal responsibility to complete here education before deciding to have children along with a supporting male, how is taking a few years off keeping her down and hindering her from future good wages? Look, I made the personal choice to quit my job and be a stay at home mom until my children were in school. I didn't want to send them to a germ infested daycare, I wanted to be there when they took their first steps, or pee in the potty for the first time. I was the one that wanted to make sure in those first years it was me instilling the values I wanted them to possess, not some stranger. For a period of 8 years to compensate the loss of income, I opened a cake decorating business out of my home. Was it something I ever dreamed I would do? No. But who would have thought a $25 Wilton cake decorating class at the community center could turn into such a lucrative business. After the kids were in school, I picked up my career where I left off. Through the years I changed course but no matter what I chose to do I excelled. That isn't something government can make happen for a woman, that comes from the individual with the fire in their belly to succeed.

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