Trending: More college students support post-birth abortion

j-mac · Oct 31, 2014

Kreton said:
I cannot believe this at all. Although 2 people around the world supporting it going up to 3 is a pretty significant growth and I suppose counts increasing.

Well, it's all because "Corey Gardner banned birth control"... right? :lamo

Slyfox696 · Oct 31, 2014

j-mac said:
Reply to the charge of "anecdotal"...

Yes, the article is based on an interview with a group of college activists that use "anecdotal" evidence, IOW, they walk around and talk to other college students and gain their opinions. You know, like when a pollster calls you on the phone, and asks if they can ask you a series of questions...The difference being that it isn't a scientific poll

Not only is it not scientific, it's pointless. Anybody can claim anything and for someone to simply believe it without any evidence is asinine.

.... Plus the fact that those progressive liberals in here that are attacking me, and the OP based on that rather than actually discussing the subject have already LOST the debate.

There's no subject to debate. You posted something which is a waste of time to discuss and those of us who are rightly pointing out how ridiculous the "source" you're basing your thread on is doing the only type of discussing which can be done.

They show themselves as either in agreement with this type of Murder, or they don't want any light shed on the disgusting lines of thought that are promoted by their peers on college campuses these days.

I asked three college people I knew if they believed in abortion until age 5. All three said no.

Thus, I have now completely proven your source 100% wrong. I expect an apology and a retraction.

Then you have the first poster to my OP, Slyfox....A misleading screen name

Nothing is misleading about it, especially considering the origins of the name. Of course, you don't know anything about that, but not knowing something obviously doesn't bother you.

designed to make people think on first glance that he is a mature adult

I'm an adult mature enough to know not to believe something from obviously biased sources.

I was hoping to bring you up to that level.

and often posts in inflamatory style, using common methods of snark, and self conceit to project that people must meet his standard of posting

Yup. I do demand a certain level of intelligence and rationality when I debate. Those who are unable to meet said level of intelligence or rationality do not deserve anything more than what I give them.

if it is not in agreement with his progressive ideology

Nothing is progressive about my "ideology". I've had those on the left accuse me of being a conservative and those on the right accuse me of being liberal.

Then like a child he resorts to supremely childish retort, baiting, and insult.

Umm...you posted "anecdotes" from an obviously biased source who provided ZERO evidence to support their claim and you expect an in-depth response? To quote you...how dumb is that? :doh

Oh so clever, in a 4th grade kind of way....right folks?

In my defense, I had to come up with something which would be understood, since you obviously don't understand how ridiculous your "source" was.

In his usual ego driven, passive/aggressive style

How can I be inflammatory, snarky, conceited, ego-driven and passive/aggressive at the same time? It's like you can't even keep your insults straight.

he wants to give some "friendly advice"? Hmmmm...Friendly advice from a progressive that can't even tell the truth about that on a public forum

I've told the truth. I'm not a progressive or a liberal or a conservative or any other simple term. Unlike you, I can process information without trying to simplify it to a "left" or "right" decision.

Then he moves directly into attacking the source, an ad hom fallacy

No, it's not a fallacy to point out a lack of concrete or scientific evidence from a biased source.

How about you spend more time researching what fallacies are before you erroneously insert them into conversations?

This is just the usual tactic from people like him, that will at first chance go running off to Mod mommy or daddy after they display the worst of character....So easy, they are.

What are you talking about? I don't have a mother or father who moderate anything. Furthermore, and to address the point you so horribly were trying to make, I'd roughly guess 80-90% of the posts I report have nothing to do with me. I know I don't suffer stupidity or foolishness well, so I don't blame people for getting upset when they debate me.

But, this thread wasn't supposed to be a steaming pile

But it is all the same. You post an article from a source which provides no evidence except "anecdotes" from an obviously biased source, all to further your objective of trying to cast everyone who doesn't believe exactly like you do as evil.

Your thread was a steaming pile from the get go and for you to complain now that people have accurately pointed out the absurdity of the basis for your thread is asinine.

that is just the kneejerk reaction of liberals and progressives when they can not defend or talk about their agenda's that are exposed.

Says the person who posted an obviously BS article and exposed their agenda.

By the way, didn't you hear? There's a new study out now which says NOBODY believes it is okay to abort a child at the age of five. All three people I asked said it wasn't, so you are obviously posting in response to old information.

Please acknowledge you now believe my study just as you believed the one before. Thanks.

I am saddened, and shocked at the people, the real people that would hold such a viewpoint, that it is fine to kill a 5 year old, and even try to call it "abortion".....

I am saddened and shocked there are people who still believe anything they read on the Internet.

I mean think about it people....We all have sons, daughters, nieces, nephews

Yes and the idea some of them are so willing to believe a bunch of BS saddens me greatly.

Kreton · Oct 31, 2014

j-mac said:
Well, it's all because "Corey Gardner banned birth control"... right? :lamo

Gardner and Udall are both horrible options for representation here. Really sucks to know one of them will win. Hadn't heard that Gardner banned or tried to ban birth control though.

j-mac · Oct 31, 2014

Kreton said:
Gardner and Udall are both horrible options for representation here. Really sucks to know one of them will win. Hadn't heard that Gardner banned or tried to ban birth control though.

j-mac · Oct 31, 2014

Slyfox696 said:
Not only is it not scientific, it's pointless. Anybody can claim anything and for someone to simply believe it without any evidence is asinine.

There's no subject to debate. You posted something which is a waste of time to discuss and those of us who are rightly pointing out how ridiculous the "source" you're basing your thread on is doing the only type of discussing which can be done.

I asked three college people I knew if they believed in abortion until age 5. All three said no.

Thus, I have now completely proven your source 100% wrong. I expect an apology and a retraction.

Nothing is misleading about it, especially considering the origins of the name. Of course, you don't know anything about that, but not knowing something obviously doesn't bother you.

I'm an adult mature enough to know not to believe something from obviously biased sources.

I was hoping to bring you up to that level.

Yup. I do demand a certain level of intelligence and rationality when I debate. Those who are unable to meet said level of intelligence or rationality do not deserve anything more than what I give them.

Nothing is progressive about my "ideology". I've had those on the left accuse me of being a conservative and those on the right accuse me of being liberal.

Umm...you posted "anecdotes" from an obviously biased source who provided ZERO evidence to support their claim and you expect an in-depth response? To quote you...how dumb is that? :doh

In my defense, I had to come up with something which would be understood, since you obviously don't understand how ridiculous your "source" was.

How can I be inflammatory, snarky, conceited, ego-driven and passive/aggressive at the same time? It's like you can't even keep your insults straight.

I've told the truth. I'm not a progressive or a liberal or a conservative or any other simple term. Unlike you, I can process information without trying to simplify it to a "left" or "right" decision.

No, it's not a fallacy to point out a lack of concrete or scientific evidence from a biased source.

How about you spend more time researching what fallacies are before you erroneously insert them into conversations?

What are you talking about? I don't have a mother or father who moderate anything. Furthermore, and to address the point you so horribly were trying to make, I'd roughly guess 80-90% of the posts I report have nothing to do with me. I know I don't suffer stupidity or foolishness well, so I don't blame people for getting upset when they debate me.

But it is all the same. You post an article from a source which provides no evidence except "anecdotes" from an obviously biased source, all to further your objective of trying to cast everyone who doesn't believe exactly like you do as evil.

Your thread was a steaming pile from the get go and for you to complain now that people have accurately pointed out the absurdity of the basis for your thread is asinine.

Says the person who posted an obviously BS article and exposed their agenda.

By the way, didn't you hear? There's a new study out now which says NOBODY believes it is okay to abort a child at the age of five. All three people I asked said it wasn't, so you are obviously posting in response to old information.

Please acknowledge you now believe my study just as you believed the one before. Thanks.

I am saddened and shocked there are people who still believe anything they read on the Internet.

Yes and the idea some of them are so willing to believe a bunch of BS saddens me greatly.

*Yawn* Go get some cheese for that whine of yours.

prometeus · Oct 31, 2014

j-mac said:
Wow....Isn't the infestation of progressive radicals in positions of education wonderful? And we as parents PAY THEM to infect our kids minds like this.

On the other hand isn't it sad when people prefer ignorance and believe stupid talking points while desperately avoiding learning and intellect in general?

j-mac · Oct 31, 2014

prometeus said:
On the other hand isn't it sad when people prefer ignorance and believe stupid talking points while desperately avoiding learning and intellect in general?

Do you believe that killing a 5 year old based on senescence is valid?

Slyfox696 · Oct 31, 2014

j-mac said:
*Yawn* Go get some cheese for that whine of yours.

Umm, ignoring the irony of a post "in a 4th grade kind of way", there was no whining. All I did was point out your source was awful and for you to base a position on it is asinine.

Speaking of which, did you read about the new study on this topic? 100% of the people polled said they do not believe in abortion after birth, so this obviously proves no one believes in post birth abortion.

Discuss.

prometeus · Oct 31, 2014

SmokeAndMirrors said:
I have never heard of this in my entire life. I have been active in pro-choice circles for 10 years, and I was recently in college.

And therein lies the problem, now you are infected and spreading the disease known as being informed and no quarantine will stop it. Oh the humanity...

Jetboogieman · Oct 31, 2014

Slyfox696 said:
Umm, ignoring the irony of a post "in a 4th grade kind of way", there was no whining. All I did was point out your source was awful and for you to base a position on it is asinine.

Speaking of which, did you read about the new study on this topic? 100% of the people polled said they do not believe in abortion after birth, so this obviously proves no one believes in post birth abortion.

Discuss.

He's gone into full blown denial.

I'm honestly shocked at the way he's returned to the thread and defended his OP.

The OP is 100% false...

He's digging himself a mighty deep hole.

prometeus · Oct 31, 2014

j-mac said:
Do you believe that killing a 5 year old based on senescence is valid?

I believe that asking outright moronic questions in a failed attempt to prop up an utterly stupid OP is a great indicator.

Slyfox696 · Oct 31, 2014

Jetboogieman said:
He's gone into full blown denial.

I'm honestly shocked at the way he's returned to the thread and defended his OP.

The OP is 100% false...

He's digging himself a mighty deep hole.

I know it shouldn't, but it still never ceases to amaze me the lengths people are willing to go to push an agenda.

rjay · Nov 2, 2014

j-mac said:
Wow....Isn't the infestation of progressive radicals in positions of education wonderful? And we as parents PAY THEM to infect our kids minds like this.

It would be good to get rid of the infestation of groups like 'Created Equal' from our campuses. Anyone who uses the term 'post-birth abortion' has had a brain infestation. One we should strive to save our young people from.

SMTA · Nov 2, 2014

j-mac said:
Wow....Isn't the infestation of progressive radicals in positions of education wonderful? And we as parents PAY THEM to infect our kids minds like this.

In these here parts, we call that murder.

Deuce · Nov 2, 2014

Anecdotal evidence by leaders of prolife groups such as Created Equal and Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust said

Why, OP, did you continue reading?

Deuce · Nov 2, 2014

j-mac said:
Do you believe that killing a 5 year old based on senescence is valid?

The part you don't seem to understand is that nobody believes this. Some whackos told you people believe this, and you bought it. Man, how on earth did you read that and actually convince yourself it was accurate? Did you really want to believe this about progressives that badly?

molten_dragon · Nov 2, 2014

j-mac said:
Wow....Isn't the infestation of progressive radicals in positions of education wonderful? And we as parents PAY THEM to infect our kids minds like this.

Are we sure those college students actually believe that, and that they weren't just saying it to be funny and edgy?

Deuce · Nov 2, 2014

molten_dragon said:
Are we sure those college students actually believe that, and that they weren't just saying it to be funny and edgy?

I'm still not convinced anyone actually said it in the first place.

j-mac · Nov 3, 2014

Deuce said:
I'm still not convinced anyone actually said it in the first place.

Although the article I posted may be fairly recent, the thought line is not I assure you....This is not a new idea, or a rouse at all. Simpleton's so narcissistic in their reasoning that they take on the role of God, determining what should be acceptable, and what should not...We, have seen this argument before in here, and even defended by some members in the past, so I don't understand why you don't trust that people hold this deplorable viewpoint....

In any case I found this opinion from the Catholic blog Patheos, and I think it is spot on....Take your time and read it.

"It reads like an article from The Onion.
But it’s not.
It’s a serious pseudo scholarly article published in the supposedly serious journal Medical Ethics, whose tagline reads “An international peer-reviewed journal for health professionals and researchers in medical ethics.”
I’ve long maintained that “ethics” as a scholarly pursuit is just the dressing up of the fine art of doing whatever you want to whomever you chose. Ethics, without God, is incapable of morality and shows no mercy or compassion. “Ethics,” as discussed in our learned journals and our various think tanks is an empathy-free zone; an elaborate mis-use of language to justify a world where the biggest and the meanest get to make all the rules.
After all, who makes these various judgements that “ethical thinkers” pass down but the biggest and the meanest? These ideas come from the royal jelly schools where a select few are groomed to take home all the prizes at the expense of everyone else. They are housed in enclosed, almost hermetically sealed environments where people never face the realities of the terrors they have wrought. They are sheltered and shielded, petted and pampered. And the “thinking” they produce is, far too often, an extension of the deep narcissism reflected in this kind of living.
“After-birth abortion: Why should the baby live?” is a product of this kind of thinking and tawdry ethical posing.
This scholarly paper, makes the case for killing children after they are born if “circumstances occur after birth such that they would have justified abortion … we claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the cases where abortion would be.”
In other words, they are saying that we should be able to kill newborns because we want to kill them. That this is “ethical.”
The authors of this paper take the same tack used by a lot of people who argue for abortion on demand on this blog: the “fetus is not a person.” They argue that newborns aren’t “persons” either."

Read more: After-Birth Abortion: Why Should the Baby Live?

Tucker Case · Nov 3, 2014

Zyphlin said:
There's not a doubt in my mind that if pro-life groups were being irritated ****s to other college students on campus that you'd have a large number of students purposefully and intentionally just ****ing with them by saying outrageous things they know would annoy or piss those people off.

ding ding!

When I was in college and I got annoyed by these people, I used to return the favor of their choice to annoy people by saying **** specifically to piss them off.

Trending: More college students support post-birth abortion

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