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School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

Wow, reading the comments section to that link made my head hurt.
 
Grant said:
Americans need their well deserved pride restored
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Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. - Proverbs 16:18
 
apdst said:
I flip my lid when someone tells the lie that all The Founders were racist, without a single qualification.
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No one said ALL of the Founders were racist. If memory serves, I think John Adams was quite outspoken about his opposition to slavery (though that doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't a racist). Plenty of qualifications were given, including recorded quotes and actions.
 
apdst said:
So, black slaves were imported to America, just to keep da black man down?

Some good ol' redneck boys, in Massacheusetts, said, "let's go to Aferca and buy us some niggers, so we can keep'em down"? Is that how it went down?
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Africans were viewed as subhuman. Are you really going to argue that isn't racist? REALLY?!
 
apdst said:
You didn't know the word didn't exist until the 20th Century
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Is that an attempt to be clever? Might work on a 3rd grader...

...obviously racism existed... that is, unless you are going to claim that their is no racism in Japan because they use a different word.
 
Geoist said:
Africans were viewed as subhuman. !
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That was only because they are humans that lived south of the equator = sub-equator = sub-human...
 
mike2810 said:
Historical context.
Were not slaves considered property back then?
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and that somehow makes slavery OK? It was an evil then just as much as it is an evil now. For men supposedly brilliant and far-thinking and possessed of all sorts of noble ideas, their believe that black people belonged to them is more than just ironical. It's shameful.
 
Navy Pride said:
Under a far left administration this is what is happening in our country.


School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists | Fox News



By Todd Starnes
Published October 27, 2014FoxNews.com


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The mother of an eight-year-old wants to know why a Tennessee school teacher gave her child a handout from the Nation of Islam that portrayed the presidents on Mount Rushmore as being racists.
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Because, unfortunately, they were. Black people weren't even 2nd class citizens, they were non-citizens, pretty much living property. There is many, many dark avenues in U.S. History and this just happens to be one of them, man. Would you prefer that children be taught lies, omissions and propaganda rather than the raw truth?
 
Jango said:
Because, unfortunately, they were. Black people weren't even 2nd class citizens, they were non-citizens, pretty much living property. There is many, many dark avenues in U.S. History and this just happens to be one of them, man. Would you prefer that children be taught lies, omissions and propaganda rather than the raw truth?
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There is nothing wrong with being taught the truth. This pamphlet, however, lies about the truth... to teach the truth.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Is that an attempt to be clever? Might work on a 3rd grader...

...obviously racism existed... that is, unless you are going to claim that their is no racism in Japan because they use a different word.
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You really didn't know that the term, "racism", wasn't coined until the 1920's, huh?
 
Geoist said:
Africans were viewed as subhuman. Are you really going to argue that isn't racist? REALLY?!
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What about the Africans that sold the Africans? They're racist, too?
 
Geoist said:
No one said ALL of the Founders were racist. If memory serves, I think John Adams was quite outspoken about his opposition to slavery (though that doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't a racist). Plenty of qualifications were given, including recorded quotes and actions.
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All I've heard, is that The Founders were racists. No one has made any exceptions.
 
apdst said:
You really didn't know that the term, "racism", wasn't coined until the 1920's, huh?
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Irrelevant to racism actually existing in the world... next?
 
apdst said:
As has been pointed out numerous times, social standards were different 230 years ago.
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That does not negate that most races were racist. It is simple. Thinking or treating others poorly due to the colour of their skin is racist. This is an age old truth.
 
Bodhisattva said:
That does not negate that most races were racist. It is simple. Thinking or treating others poorly due to the colour of their skin is racist. This is an age old truth.
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But...the standard you use to define racism isn't that old.
 
All of the present day descendents of the slaves should get down on their knees and thank the good Lord that their ancestors were two dumb or too slow to outrun their cousins who were rounding them up to sell to the Jewish slave traders. The descendents of their cousins are living in Ebola infested mud huts.........their cousins here in America are driving leased Escalades, drinking Hennessy with a coke back and making absurd salaries in government while playing 'grab-ass' in the hallways......
 
Wiggen said:
and that somehow makes slavery OK? It was an evil then just as much as it is an evil now. For men supposedly brilliant and far-thinking and possessed of all sorts of noble ideas, their believe that black people belonged to them is more than just ironical. It's shameful.
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Moving the goal post. Never stated slavery was OK. What you fail to accept is one should judge people during the time they lived not on today's valuses.

So should Washington be removed from rushmore?

It is noted you really didn't answer the question I asked.
 
ecofarm said:
Of course they were. They owned slaves and thought blacks were not human. If that's not racist, then what the **** is??
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In fact history demonstrates that people from the same race often used slaves. Indentureship was often just a step above slavery.

Without perspective, history won't tell us all that much. We have no reason to be smug or self righteous about our own times given that sins such as slavery are still happening now, and are being deliberately ignored.



That's YOUR problem and not others'. I hear about non-white-owned slavery all the time. Perhaps you should stop ignoring the subject.[/QUOTE]
 
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