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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Everyone knows racism exists and existed. Is that news?

    The problem is that little else is taught in the public school system, certainly little that glorifies America, and students are suffering from ever greater stupidity as a consequence.
    I taught a lot of other things in History and Geography... maybe you just had a **** teacher.
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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Rather than blanket Fox news why not check out who did the report and be critical of that person. He should certainly be fired.
    It was a Fox report. It was thus approved by Fox and who knows, maybe the story was assigned by an online editor. I absolutely don't watch or listen to broadcast news. When the 4th Estate dies it will have been broadcast news who stabbed it most. Fox is in my opinion the unabashed leader in broadcast yellow journalism. That is saying a lot in a medium (TV in this instance) that purposely distorts and destroys the truth in the name of informing the public.

    Fox's penchant for creating "news" that doesn't exist and for distorting factoids to excite and entertain is just as prevalent online as it is in broadcast.










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    School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You should have just posted the first paragraph.

    Americans are far too critical of their history and their country and the effect of this is beginning to show. Americans need their well deserved pride restored, but I doubt that will ever happen in the public school system.
    Read my third paragraph I edited. I'm sorry Im not quick enough.
    I'm using an iPad mini with Tapatalk and I canonly see a limited
    amount of space for some reason.

    What I will say is that critical history is important, but it is dependent upon age.
    The younger you are, the more emphasis should be on simplifying
    the message you wish to teach. You can be multicultural without being spiteful or cynical.

    The older you are, the more complicated history should become. Furthermore, the problem with some of this is that people use a slightly historicist perspective, but only when it suits the agenda. The relativism only shows up enough to support, for instance, the idea that critiquing white American power structures is bad. Sudenly that is because it's the 19th century vs. the 21st. Yet, in many other subjects, those qualms go away really quickly. This is because it doesn't suit the agenda. It's not a consistent application of historicism.

    Right wingers tend to have few qualms with critiquing Margret Sanger on the same grounds. Historicism would dictate that Sanger would be held to her time. COnversely, many Left wingers, so intent on critiquing the past with the current lens because it impacts us, become mum about this when their intent is to defend one of their heroes.

    When it doesn't suit the political agenda, people tend to bend to what they want history to be.
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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I detect a lot of BS here. You can easily check out the history of Mount Rushmore and that of Chief Crazy Horse as well.

    This OP have just some truth to it but someone must be responsible for all those dumbass students learning to rubbish their own country and rewrite its history.
    Whaaaa? Huh? Grant, you are the very person who found the link proving the OP story to be loads of bull****, as in it didn't happen. It wasn't a handout, no one gave it to the kid. It wasn't used in class. Remember the link YOU provided? And now you want to argue the facts that don't exist?










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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Did this take place in a private school? I'm phone posting so my search abilities are extremely limited.
    Read post #24 where a link is provided that debunks the bovine feces reported in the OP by Fox News.










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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You should have just posted the first paragraph.

    Americans are far too critical of their history and their country and the effect of this is beginning to show. Americans need their well deserved pride restored, but I doubt that will ever happen in the public school system.
    Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh! Now the truth and Grant's agenda.










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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I taught a lot of other things in History and Geography... maybe you just had a **** teacher.
    In fact I've read a great deal of US history and my education has served me well. But of course you are wandering away from the topic which suggests you may have confused a few of these lessons along the way yourself, demonstrating once again the problems in the US educational system.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh! Now the truth and Grant's agenda.
    What agenda are you imagining now?

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh! Now the truth and Grant's agenda.
    Actually, the part not highlighted is more illustrative of what he wants.

    The latter would be a mere distractive issue.
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