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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is it your understanding that all Muslims are Americans?
    Is it your understanding that no Muslims are Americans? Because that's the picture you seem to be painting here.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Is it your understanding that no Muslims are Americans? Because that's the picture you seem to be painting here.
    That would be a picture for people who are either blind or really not very bright.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That would be a picture for people who are either blind or really not very bright.
    We are aware you aren't very bright, now answer my question please.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I really don't know how you left wingers can defend this but whatever floats your boat........Its so s ad you live in the greatest country in the world and have no clue.
    Did this take place in a private school? I'm phone posting so my search abilities are extremely limited.

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    School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists

    The image itself is improper for a classroom, if that is in fact what happened. . It distorts why white America prided itself with the selection of Presidents on Mount Rushmore and instead focused only on the issue of slavery or racism.

    That being said, they are somewhat guilty as charged. Jefferson's sense of contradiction was difficult then as it is now. Washington's history was better than Jefferson's but was still part of the problem. Lincoln was willing to capitulate for the Union though he found slavery abhorrent.

    The point could have been better presented. Whether the subject would be appropriate for an 8 year old is even more under contention. Lessons on how minority voices would react to the actions of said individuals has been done before for children of that age or a bit younger. That being said, elementary schools tend to be more focused on benevolent nationalism, which is essentially myth building exercises. Minority or underrepresented figures are also part of that discussion. It tends to be happy, uncritical discussions of both whites and racial or other minorities--without any sense of great conflict. That's what I think is a prudent course for the very young. You can still instill in them, if you prefer, multiculturalist values without intentionally tearing down certain reputations.
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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    We are aware you aren't very bright, now answer my question please.
    You have to ask if there are no Muslim Americans? Can't you google rather than posting nonsense?

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The image itself is improper for a classroom, if that is in fact what happened. . It distorts why white America prided itself with the selection of Presidents on Mount Rushmore and instead focused only on the issue of slavery or racism.

    That being said, they are somewhat guilty as charged. Jefferson's sense of contradiction was difficult then as it is now. Washington's history was better than Jefferson's but was still part of the problem. Lincoln was willing to capitulate for the Union though he found slavery abhorrent.

    The point could have been better presented.
    You should have just posted the first paragraph.

    Americans are far too critical of their history and their country and the effect of this is beginning to show. Americans need their well deserved pride restored, but I doubt that will ever happen in the public school system.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I really don't know how you left wingers can defend this but whatever floats your boat........Its so s ad you live in the greatest country in the world and have no clue.
    I really don't know how you right wingers can not accept that facts are facts, but whatever floats your boat........
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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You have to ask if there are no Muslim Americans? Can't you google rather than posting nonsense?
    I asked if it was your understanding that there are no Muslim Americans, not if they exist. I ****ing know they exist. You, however, can't seem to get over your hatred of muslims long enough to acknowledge that there are actually peaceful muslims living among us here in America. Because, you know, all Muslims bomb buildings and behead people. Or something.

    Now answer my question please.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Americans are far too critical of their history and their country and the effect of this is beginning to show. Americans need their well deserved pride restored, but I doubt that will ever happen in the public school system.
    Americans aren't critical enough.

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