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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You seem to speak of Muslims and Americans as two different groups. Which is why you are part of the problem.
    Is it your understanding that all Muslims are Americans?

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And you think they'd accomplish that by pretending racism never existed?
    Who is pretending that racism never existed? You? Your school mates?

    I know of no one who claims slavery never existed, and in fact it exists in the wacky world of islam today.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Wow! Wow! and Wow! Nice job, Grant. Allow me to give you the clap.

    As difficult as it is to believe it would seem that once again Fox "News" is as full of sh*t as a Christmas goose.

    The big story here is that people continue to watch and read Fox reporting and accept it at face value, without bothering to validate any given "news" report. Time and time again blatant and purposeful distortion of events "reported" by Fox ends up making the rounds and inciting the gullible viewers of extreme right wing sites. Time and time again those same readers are duped and made to look foolish.

    Thankfully we have people like Grant and a bulletin board such as DP and thus the truth can be known. Unfortunately, most suckers, dummies and fools continue to accept what they hear and read on Fox and on extremist web sites. People who do not question their extremist "news" sources will continue to remain willfully ignorant. Those people will also remain outraged about things that never happened.
    Rather than blanket Fox news why not check out who did the report and be critical of that person. He should certainly be fired.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    ...and they told the mother the material was not a student hand out....Right.

    Did the mother find out why her child took something off the Teacher's desk area without permission?

    Maybe someone should chop the student's hand off.
    You attended a similar class, huh?

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Yes, as a matter of fact there is.

    The question at the top of the pamphlet asks: "What does it take to be on Mt. Rushmore?" The information listed under each President, while accurate, does not in any way reflect on the decision making process that went into the deciding who would actually appear on the monument. As written, the pamphlet would have us believe that the thought process in choosing these men for the monument had much to do with them owning slaves or harboring negative views of the black race. This of course is patently false as these men were chosen for their service and their historical significance to this nation. The fact that they were slave owners or held racist views I would argue never once was even brought up when the monument was being planned.

    So what this pamphlet actually does is condemn the 18th and 19th century actions of these men using the standards of the 21st century, which is not an accurate or honest way to evaluate them. It also wrongfully suggests that those actions somehow were a prerequisite for having their collective faces carved in stone. So while "the facts" of this pamphlet may be accurate, the picture this pamphlet attempts to paint with these facts is dishonest as hell.
    Hmmmm... That makes pretty good sense to me. I'll give it a "like."

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Is there anything on the pamphlets that is untruthful? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Mount Rushmore has long been a source of controversy regarding it's racist undertones. It was placed, as we are told, under the noses of the Souix Indian Nation most sacred grounds, reminding them who the big boss was. Or, some folks say that, anyways.

    I do not understand how some people can get all upset when the christian pastors, preaching homophobic and other <fill in the blank> hate from pulpits in Houston, get subpoenas. Yet, the very same people will get all upset when the Islamic clergy preaches similar hate towards America from their pulpits or pamphlets, just pointed in a different direction.

    That "Freedom of Religion," thing can be a mother****er, no?

    I detect a scent of hypocrisy.
    I detect a lot of BS here. You can easily check out the history of Mount Rushmore and that of Chief Crazy Horse as well.

    This OP have just some truth to it but someone must be responsible for all those dumbass students learning to rubbish their own country and rewrite its history.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, we don't need a national day of torture. Just a recognition that racism existed in varying degrees from day one of this nation. It particularly flourished during that period of time where black people were owned as slaves. And some of the intelligent men of the late 18th century, who should have known better, actually owned other human beings themselves. Two of them are on Mt. Rushmore.
    Everyone knows racism exists and existed. Is that news?

    The problem is that little else is taught in the public school system, certainly little that glorifies America, and students are suffering from ever greater stupidity as a consequence.

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    They were!!

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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Everyone knows racism exists and existed. Is that news?

    The problem is that little else is taught in the public school system, certainly little that glorifies America, and students are suffering from ever greater stupidity as a consequence.
    So all you want is America to be glorified?
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    re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I do not understand how some people can get all upset when the christian pastors, preaching homophobic and other <fill in the blank> hate from pulpits in Houston, get subpoenas.
    I can.

    Legally, and we are a nation of laws, "hate speech" has a very narrow definition. The Pastors in question did not even come close to meeting that definition.

    Being a political dissident does not make one guilty of "hate speech". At the end of the day, abuse of power is still abuse of power- even when "progressives" do it.
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