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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Nation of Islam is one of the largest racist hate organizations in this country.
    As well as in the world. More attention should be paid to this very real and lethal problem rather than the manufactured domestic race bating.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

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    So would it be safe to say you would know the anatomy of shrimp and what we could possibly find in researching them?
    You believe there's value in spending 3mil on wartching a shrimp on s treadmill?
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You believe there's value in spending 3mil on wartching a shrimp on s treadmill?
    Are you a scientist or at the very least in the business side of endeavors like this? Regardless, how would you budget an experiment like this?

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Are you a scientist or at the very least in the business side of endeavors like this? Regardless, how would you budget an experiment like this?
    I would factor it right out of the budget...lol!

    I would encourage the folks that wanted to do the research to approach the shrimp industry for the money.
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would factor it right out of the budget...lol!
    Well then how much of the federal budget would you leave up for Scientific grants if you were a member of Congress?

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    I would encourage the folks that wanted to do the research to approach the shrimp industry for the money.
    What makes you think they didn't approach private companies for grants? For that matter, do you even understand the process on how Scientists earn government funded grants?

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Well then how much of the federal budget would you leave up for Scientific grants if you were a member of Congress?



    What makes you think they didn't approach private companies for grants? For that matter, do you even understand the process on how Scientists earn government funded grants?
    1) I wouldn't spend 3 million bucks on a shrimp treadmill.

    2) Research it. Find out if they did and get back with us.
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1) I wouldn't spend 3 million bucks on a shrimp treadmill.
    Again, how much of the federal budget would you allow to scientific grants, because as of 2014 Congress has allocated 60 billion dollars to scientific grants and studies. That money is then spread out to different public scientific groups like the National Institute of Health and the National Science Institute. Is that too much, too little, or not enough?

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    2) Research it. Find out if they did and get back with us.
    Honestly I can not say if the group that started the study asked private groups, but the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. That is all an aside from the point at hand here. Why do you insist on dodging all of my questions?

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Again, how much of the federal budget would you allow to scientific grants, because as of 2014 Congress has allocated 60 billion dollars to scientific grants and studies. That money is then spread out to different public scientific groups like the National Institute of Health and the National Science Institute. Is that too much, too little, or not enough?
    I don't know, but I know that if I had any say, $3 million wouldn't be spent watching a shrimp on a treadmill. If these folks want to do the research, they better get the price tag down in the ballpark of about $10,000, or less.



    Honestly I can not say if the group that started the study asked private groups, but the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. That is all an aside from the point at hand here. Why do you insist on dodging all of my questions?
    I don't know if the tried to round up private money, or not. If they did and private investors didn't buy into it, that should tell you something.
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't know, but I know that if I had any say, $3 million wouldn't be spent watching a shrimp on a treadmill. If these folks want to do the research, they better get the price tag down in the ballpark of about $10,000, or less.
    $10 grand wouldn't even be able to buy the bacteria they used on the shrimp let alone the funds needed for the actual treadmills (if they used different treadmills for science reasons,) upkeep, and lab space.


    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't know if the tried to round up private money, or not. If they did and private investors didn't buy into it, that should tell you something.
    Private investors care more about the short term bottom line than they do for the long term ramifications that studies like the one we are discussing are providing. Which is hardly the fault of private citizens earning their buck, but again this whole line of discussion is pointless.

    I say this respectfully, but you're simply ignorant on the matter of science spending and how much (or in this case I should say how little) Scientists get in grants to perform tests like running shrimp on treadmills. Nor are you informed on how much scientific equipment costs to garner accurate results.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    $10 grand wouldn't even be able to buy the bacteria they used on the shrimp let alone the funds needed for the actual treadmills (if they used different treadmills for science reasons,) upkeep, and lab space.




    Private investors care more about the short term bottom line than they do for the long term ramifications that studies like the one we are discussing are providing. Which is hardly the fault of private citizens earning their buck, but again this whole line of discussion is pointless.

    I say this respectfully, but you're simply ignorant on the matter of science spending and how much (or in this case I should say how little) Scientists get in grants to perform tests like running shrimp on treadmills. Nor are you informed on how much scientific equipment costs to garner accurate results.
    Ok, convince me. Research the work and tell us what valuable information was produced.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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