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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Apdst, you don't get it do you? You defended his position and credentials - which are from a website full of propaganda - in this thread and you were called on it by another member:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-u...post1059936888

    Now the websites he posted on are full of white nationalist propaganda. Does that not seem a bit ironic, that you, who is impervious to propaganda, would be caught up on a website full of their propaganda? Or was that different and not part of any particular brainwashing? I mean - you continue to utter certain white nationalist type of phrases. You've made your hatred of Muslims no secret. You've alluded that Jews too have fallen under the wing of propaganda. You've even gone as far as calling George Soros, who committed no crime - a... Nazi. Yet you, an outstanding fellow, have not fallen under the ruse of any type of propaganda. Isn't that a bit odd to you? Again, what you posted after to redeem yourself is not what's in question here. It's the fact that you posted a link full of propaganda yourself and yet somehow weren't swayed by it. I find it that astonishing.
    Why are you insisting Henry Gates is a racist? Do you still believe there were no black slave owners?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why are you insisting Henry Gates is a racist? Do you still believe there were no black slave owners?
    Lol, apdst, you're not really understanding what the question here is do you? I asked you about the fact that you cited Robert M. Groom (whose work you seem to be quite familiar with). I didn't ask you about the content you cited. I asked you about the environment it hailed from. The fact that the website hailed from a white nationalist is accidental to the fact that it's from a website full of propaganda. However, if you'd like more evidence that you regularly post from or about websites riddled with propaganda:

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    Actually, Cain's participation lends alot of credibility to WND.
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    Governer, your can of worms,

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    And the religion of peaces begins it's campaign to kill Americans. I guess this guy is just in the process of snapping. Must be a long, slow process.
    There are 4 examples of you posting from a website which is bombarded with propaganda. Does that type of propaganda not have any type of effect on you? Or is their propaganda not propaganda at all? Remember, you're citing a birther story, stating that disgraced serial sexual molester Herman Cain brings legitimacy to WND and then saying the head of CAIR is telling people to attack others. Does this type of propaganda not affect you at all?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, apdst, you're not really understanding what the question here is do you? I asked you about the fact that you cited Robert M. Groom (whose work you seem to be quite familiar with). I didn't ask you about the content you cited. I asked you about the environment it hailed from. The fact that the website hailed from a white nationalist is accidental to the fact that it's from a website full of propaganda. However, if you'd like more evidence that you regularly post from or about websites riddled with propaganda:






    There are 4 examples of you posting from a website which is bombarded with propaganda. Does that type of propaganda not have any type of effect on you? Or is their propaganda not propaganda at all? Remember, you're citing a birther story, stating that disgraced serial sexual molester Herman Cain brings legitimacy to WND and then saying the head of CAIR is telling people to attack others. Does this type of propaganda not affect you at all?
    You asked for proof of black slave owners. I gave you a crappy source. I gave you better source. What say you, now? Because, like it, or not, the thread isn't about me. Are you ready to admit defeat, yet?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You asked for proof of black slave owners.
    Nope, I did not. Actually, I wasn't even involved in that conversation at all.

    I gave you a crappy source. I gave you better source. What say you, now? Because, like it, or not, the thread isn't about me. Are you ready to admit defeat, yet?
    You don't understand yet? Okay, I'll make it easier now:

    1. You've demonstrated a pattern of sourcing from websites riddled with propaganda (white nationalists, WNDs, holocaust denial)
    2. The question now is: Do you believe you are affected by the propaganda from those websites or does their propaganda not affect you at all?

    Please try and keep up.
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope, I did not. Actually, I wasn't even involved in that conversation at all.



    You don't understand yet? Okay, I'll make it easier now:

    1. You've demonstrated a pattern of sourcing from websites riddled with propaganda (white nationalists, WNDs, holocaust denial)
    2. The question now is: Do you believe you are affected by the propaganda from those websites or does their propaganda not affect you at all?

    Please try and keep up.
    You're desperate to counter my arguments, that you jave launch raging personal attacks. It's all any of you Liberals have. What a waste.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're desperate to counter my arguments, that you jave launch raging personal attacks. It's all any of you Liberals have. What a waste.
    Apdst, why don't you answer the question? You seem to post from websites riddled with right wing propaganda regularly. Does that no affect you at all? Be honest
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Apdst, why don't you answer the question? You seem to post from websites riddled with right wing propaganda regularly. Does that no affect you at all? Be honest
    If your arguments weren't so weak, you wouldn't have to engage in these attacks.
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If your arguments weren't so weak, you wouldn't have to engage in these attacks.
    Apdst, do you believe questions are a form of attack? Is it because you can't answer them?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Apdst, do you believe questions are a form of attack? Is it because you can't answer them?
    I'm making a rue, pal. I'm going to have to catch you another time.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Smaller government, more freedoms, more jobs? Who wouldn't want that?
    And the Republicans have done zero to provide any of those things in the last, oh, my entire lifetime (at least).

    The Republicans can crow all they want about "smaller government and more freedoms." And they've proven over the last several decades to be entirely full of ****.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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