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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes apdst, we know. You hate muslims, you think black people are brainwashed and you like to cite Robert M. Groom, known contributor to Holocaust Denial websites and white power revisionist history. You're completely impervious to propaganda.
    I'm not sure what it has to with this thread, but do you have a problem with the Robert Groom article?
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

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    Like what?
    Like like.
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

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    Like like.
    Give us some examples.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

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    Give us some examples.
    Like what?
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes apdst, we know. You hate muslims, you think black people are brainwashed and you like to cite Robert M. Groom, known contributor to Holocaust Denial websites and white power revisionist history. You're completely impervious to propaganda.
    Here's an article by Henry Gates that you'll like better. Are you going to call Gates a racist?

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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not sure what it has to with this thread, but do you have a problem with the Robert Groom article?
    Lol... for one being a known historical revisionist who posts on holocaust denial websites often. We all know how devoid of propaganda those are. The best part is that he's actually been removed from Wikipedia because his "work" is only posted in white supremacists websites. No propaganda there, right? Tell us all about how white supremacist websites you get some of your articles from, aren't full of propaganda. Like... this one:

    http://www.resist.com/positions/History.html
    DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT Black Slave Owners by Robert M Grooms

    No propaganda on those websites? Right apdst?
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol... for one being a known historical revisionist who posts on holocaust denial websites often. We all know how devoid of propaganda those are. The best part is that he's actually been removed from Wikipedia because his "work" is only posted in white supremacists websites. No propaganda there, right? Tell us all about how white supremacist websites you get some of your articles from, aren't full of propaganda. Like... this one:

    http://www.resist.com/positions/History.html
    DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT Black Slave Owners by Robert M Grooms

    No propaganda on those websites? Right apdst?
    Here's a better source, or is this one propagands, too?

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    Checkmate!
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Here's a better source, or is this one propagands, too?

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    Checkmate!
    Checkmate? You barely seem to understand checkers. You agreed that you post from a guy whose entire body of work is posted on websites full of racist propaganda. That you found a link with superficially related work doesn't absolve you from the fact that on various occasions you've defended getting your sources from websites full of racist propaganda themselves. It's not hard to draw conclusions as to the effect that sort of propaganda has had on you. Do you understand the point yet? Or do I have to draw it for you?
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Checkmate? You barely seem to understand checkers. You agreed that you post from a guy whose entire body of work is posted on websites full of racist propaganda. That you found a link with superficially related work doesn't absolve you from the fact that on various occasions you've defended getting your sources from websites full of racist propaganda themselves. It's not hard to draw conclusions as to the effect that sort of propaganda has had on you. Do you understand the point yet? Or do I have to draw it for you?
    I gave you a bad source, here's a netter one.

    Black Slave Owners: Did They Exist? - The Root

    BTW, this is a topic you started in the basement, isn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I gave you a bad source, here's a netter one.
    Apdst, you don't get it do you? You defended his position and credentials - which are from a website full of propaganda - in this thread and you were called on it by another member:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-u...post1059936888

    Now the website you posted on are full of white nationalist propaganda. Does that not seem a bit ironic, that you, who is impervious to propaganda, would be caught up on a website full of their propaganda? Or was that different and not part of any particular brainwashing? I mean - you continue to utter certain white nationalist type of phrases. You've made your hatred of Muslims no secret. You've alluded that Jews too have fallen under the wing of propaganda. You've even gone as far as calling George Soros, who committed no crime - a... Nazi. Yet you, an outstanding fellow, have not fallen under the ruse of any type of propaganda. Isn't that a bit odd to you?

    Again, what you posted after to redeem yourself is not what's in question here. It's the fact that you posted a link full of propaganda yourself and yet somehow weren't swayed by it even though you defended the claims. I find it that astonishing if no contradictory. Again, it's not the cited part of the links which is in question, it's the environment around the citations.
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