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School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

Kobie said:
Maybe the black community just doesn't like what the Republicans are selling.
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No, no. We were brainwashed. That makes Republicans feel better about having ****ty candidates. I wonder how Jewish people vote?

Jewish Voting Record in U.S. Presidential Elections | Jewish Virtual Library

They haven't given Republicans a majority of the vote in.... 96 years.... I wonder if they're brainwashed too? Or how does the brainwashing work? Are only half of Jews brainwashed and the other half isn't? :lol:
 
Kobie said:
Maybe the black community just doesn't like what the Republicans are selling.
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The Republicans agenda as defined by the Politicians that oppose it based on principle isn't going to appeal to anyone.

But thats not a accurate definition of the GOP position on anything.

Its clear by now that the Democrats will stoop down to any level possible needed to hold onto power.

And that includes lies and misrepresentation.
 
Kobie said:
Maybe the black community just doesn't like what the Republicans are selling.
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Smaller government, more freedoms, more jobs? Who wouldn't want that?
 
jet57 said:
The Nation of Islam has been around in this country for quite a while and the founders really didn't do much to see to it that blacks and indians were treated as eaquals did they... There is nothing far left about what's right.
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Actually they did. Look at the protections blacks and indians have, now. In no other nation in human history could that happen.
 
apdst said:
Actually they did. Look at the protections blacks and indians have, now. In no other nation in human history could that happen.
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I'm not talking about now; please follow the conversation. We're talking about from the founding.
 
jet57 said:
I'm not talking about now; please follow the conversation. We're talking about from the founding.
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I know what you meant and you're wrong. The foundation laid by the founders got us here. Without them, it probably wouldn't have happened.
 
jet57 said:
The Nation of Islam has been around in this country for quite a while and the founders really didn't do much to see to it that blacks and indians were treated as eaquals did they... There is nothing far left about what's right.
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Here is what "The Nation Of Islam" is up to, as well as deciding who should be able to speak in American Universities. Would you have preferred them as your 'Founding Fathers"?

ISIS Snuffs Out Ancient Christianity
 
Grant said:
Here is what "The Nation Of Islam" is up to, as well as deciding who should be able to speak in American Universities. Would you have preferred them as your 'Founding Fathers"?

ISIS Snuffs Out Ancient Christianity
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I'm not interested in the Nation of Islam or Louis Farakan, or Your Black Muslim Bakery etc etc. I'm making the point that human history shows that religion creates violence. So if you're going to yell about Muslims then Chrtistians should look in the mirror as well.

And that crack about the founding fathers is just silly. To that I can say, so, you support slavery and racism then...
 
jet57 said:
I'm not interested in the Nation of Islam or Louis Farakan, or Your Black Muslim Bakery etc etc. I'm making the point that human history shows that religion creates violence. So if you're going to yell about Muslims then Chrtistians should look in the mirror as well.

And that crack about the founding fathers is just silly. To that I can say, so, you support slavery and racism then...
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Like what?
 
Hatuey said:
Yes apdst, we know. You hate muslims, you think black people are brainwashed and you like to cite Robert M. Groom, known contributor to Holocaust Denial websites and white power revisionist history. You're completely impervious to propaganda.
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I'm not sure what it has to with this thread, but do you have a problem with the Robert Groom article?
 
Hatuey said:
Yes apdst, we know. You hate muslims, you think black people are brainwashed and you like to cite Robert M. Groom, known contributor to Holocaust Denial websites and white power revisionist history. You're completely impervious to propaganda.
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Here's an article by Henry Gates that you'll like better. Are you going to call Gates a racist?

Black Slave Owners: Did They Exist? - The Root
 
apdst said:
I'm not sure what it has to with this thread, but do you have a problem with the Robert Groom article?
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Lol... for one being a known historical revisionist who posts on holocaust denial websites often. We all know how devoid of propaganda those are. The best part is that he's actually been removed from Wikipedia because his "work" is only posted in white supremacists websites. No propaganda there, right? Tell us all about how white supremacist websites you get some of your articles from, aren't full of propaganda. Like... this one:

http://www.resist.com/positions/History.html
DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT Black Slave Owners by Robert M Grooms

No propaganda on those websites? Right apdst? ;)
 
Hatuey said:
Lol... for one being a known historical revisionist who posts on holocaust denial websites often. We all know how devoid of propaganda those are. The best part is that he's actually been removed from Wikipedia because his "work" is only posted in white supremacists websites. No propaganda there, right? Tell us all about how white supremacist websites you get some of your articles from, aren't full of propaganda. Like... this one:

http://www.resist.com/positions/History.html
DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT Black Slave Owners by Robert M Grooms

No propaganda on those websites? Right apdst? ;)
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Here's a better source, or is this one propagands, too?

Black Slave Owners: Did They Exist? - The Root

Checkmate! ;)
 
apdst said:
Here's a better source, or is this one propagands, too?

Black Slave Owners: Did They Exist? - The Root

Checkmate! ;)
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Checkmate? You barely seem to understand checkers. You agreed that you post from a guy whose entire body of work is posted on websites full of racist propaganda. That you found a link with superficially related work doesn't absolve you from the fact that on various occasions you've defended getting your sources from websites full of racist propaganda themselves. It's not hard to draw conclusions as to the effect that sort of propaganda has had on you. Do you understand the point yet? Or do I have to draw it for you? ;)
 
Hatuey said:
Checkmate? You barely seem to understand checkers. You agreed that you post from a guy whose entire body of work is posted on websites full of racist propaganda. That you found a link with superficially related work doesn't absolve you from the fact that on various occasions you've defended getting your sources from websites full of racist propaganda themselves. It's not hard to draw conclusions as to the effect that sort of propaganda has had on you. Do you understand the point yet? Or do I have to draw it for you? ;)
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I gave you a bad source, here's a netter one.

Black Slave Owners: Did They Exist? - The Root

BTW, this is a topic you started in the basement, isn't it?
 
apdst said:
I gave you a bad source, here's a netter one.
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Apdst, you don't get it do you? You defended his position and credentials - which are from a website full of propaganda - in this thread and you were called on it by another member:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-...e-license-plates-texas-25.html#post1059936888

Now the website you posted on are full of white nationalist propaganda. Does that not seem a bit ironic, that you, who is impervious to propaganda, would be caught up on a website full of their propaganda? Or was that different and not part of any particular brainwashing? I mean - you continue to utter certain white nationalist type of phrases. You've made your hatred of Muslims no secret. You've alluded that Jews too have fallen under the wing of propaganda. You've even gone as far as calling George Soros, who committed no crime - a... Nazi. Yet you, an outstanding fellow, have not fallen under the ruse of any type of propaganda. Isn't that a bit odd to you?

Again, what you posted after to redeem yourself is not what's in question here. It's the fact that you posted a link full of propaganda yourself and yet somehow weren't swayed by it even though you defended the claims. I find it that astonishing if no contradictory. Again, it's not the cited part of the links which is in question, it's the environment around the citations.
 
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