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Boehner: Bush would have punched Putin in the nose

ecofarm said:
That would none. Unaware of such basic facts, it's difficult to figure what you might be on about.
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No, it is you that is unaware of "such basic facts." You're seriously going to try and say that Israel has never violated a single U.N. Security Council Resolution?
 
Jango said:
Saddam was a POS that we supported until he messed with "people" (oil)
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No matter how many times I correct you, you'll continue to tell that lie? I've shown you US lead international sanctions against Saddam began (no later than) 1984 under Reagan and Thatcher. A little basic history knowledge would be nice.
 
ecofarm said:
No matter how many times I correct you, you'll continue to tell that lie? I've shown you sanctions against Saddam began in 1984 under Reagan and Thatcher. A little basic history would be nice.
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What lie? That we supported him? That's not a lie. If you think it is, then I'm sorry, man, but it is, once again, you that is lacking historical knowledge.
 
Jango said:
No, it is you that is unaware of "such basic facts." You're seriously going to try and say that Israel has never violated a single U.N. Security Council Resolution?
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There's no UNSCR against Israel because the US would veto any such resolution. Therefore the violation, by Israel, of a UNSCR against it is an impossibility.

You don't have any idea how the UN, UNSC or resolutions against nations work at all, do you? You're just presumming that any resolution calling for anything that Israel did not abide by perfectly is the same thing as the violation of a Chapter 7 UNSCR? Ignorant nonsense.
 
Jango said:
What lie? That we supported him? That's not a lie. If you think it is, then I'm sorry, man, but it is, once again, you that is lacking historical knowledge.
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The US lead international sanctions against Saddam beginning in 1984, specifically to ban selling him weapons. And you claim the US was supporting him? That's clearly BS.

What's next, Alex Jones anthrax crap? Do spare us.
 
ecofarm said:
There's no UNSCR against Israel because the US would veto any such resolution. Therefore the violation, by Israel, of a UNSCR against it is an impossibility.

You don't have any idea how the UN, UNSC or resolutions against nations work at all, do you? You're just presumming that any resolution calling for anything that Israel did not abide by perfectly is the same thing as the violation of a Chapter 7 UNSCR? Ignorant nonsense.
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http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...ignoring-security-council-resolutions-1.31971
 
Jango said:
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Your failure to maintain context does not constitute another moving goal posts. You do remember the subject is Saddam, right? The discussion began just a few moments ago, how can you have lost track so quickly? The 17 UNSCR violations referred to are Chapter 7s directed at him, not just any resolution that someone supposedly doesn't abide perfectly.
 
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ecofarm said:
For your next feat will you explain why with actual historical context, political and other limitations and geopolitical priorities?
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No, I won't.

Or will "does not doing everything all the time" prove the US is evil.
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No, though it may support the argument that Bush the Younger was/is no one Boehner should be holding up as a positive example. More to your question, it is important that Americans realize that the US is not always right or good. We have been wrong, American can be wrong. We can be and have been evil.

Jesus, will I be glad when you get your doctorate.
 
Risky Thicket said:
More to your question, it is important that Americans realize that the US is not always right or good. We have been wrong, American can be wrong. We can and have been evil.
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Strawman. No one believes the US was or is perfect.

Bush the Younger
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An Air America meme? How retro.
 
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ecofarm said:
The US lead international sanctions against Saddam beginning in 1984, specifically to ban selling him weapons. And you claim the US was supporting him? That's clearly BS.

What's next, Alex Jones anthrax crap? Do spare us.
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Lol, always quick to bring up Alex Jones when you're not hearing exactly what you want to hear, "Everything is therefore a conspiracy theory!"

https://web.archive.org/web/2004011...om/wp-srv/zforum/03/sp_world_battle022703.htm
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraqgate, 1980-1994
U.S. Says It Monitored Iraqi Messages on Gas - NYTimes.com
http://courses.washington.edu/jsisb...y_files/US had key role in Iraq's buildup.pdf
Dozens of U.S. Items Used in Iraq Arms
OFFICERS SAY U.S. AIDED IRAQ IN WAR DESPITE USE OF GAS - NYTimes.com
https://web.archive.org/web/2008121...-us-firms-supplied-arms-to-saddam-611332.html
US Armed Iraq Through BNL - Rep Gonzalez Special Order
Perspective: How Iraq built its weapons programs
History lesson: When the United States looked the other way on chemical weapons - The Washington Post
U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran - NYTimes.com
What good is a terrorism list? - Los Angeles Times
How US helped Iraq build deadly arsenal | The Times
THE WORLD IN SUMMARY - Readjustments In the Mideast - NYTimes.com
Exclusive: CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons' | Daily Mail Online
U.S. And Iraq Go Way Back - CBS News

Saddam Once Received Key to Detroit

You may be more well traveled than I, but I'm certainly more well read than you ;)
 
ecofarm said:
Your failure to maintain context does not constitute another moving goal posts. You do remember the subject is Saddam, right? The discussion began just a few moments ago, how can you have lost track so quickly? The 17 UNSCR violations referred to are Chapter 7s directed at him, not just any resolution that someone supposedly doesn't abide perfectly.
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Violation is violation, but apparently not when Israel is concerned.
 
Jango said:
You may be more well traveled than I, but I'm certainly more well read than you ;)
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Being well read regarding the Daily Mail and foreignpolicy.com hardly supports your argument.

Jango said:
Violation is violation,
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False equivalence.

but apparently not when Israel is concerned.
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Well, one must earn ones Jew-Gold from the Elders one way or another. Besides, the Illuminati paid me off and I'm buckin' for a seat at the Bilderberg this year.
 
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ecofarm said:
Being well read regarding the Daily Mail and foreignpolicy.com hardly supports your argument.
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Like a broken record, you do exactly what I knew you'd do. New day, same ecofarm. But go ahead, keep ignoring official documentation, the NYTimes, Washington Post and LATimes. And you conflate Alex Jones with me! HAH!
 
Jango said:
Like a broken record, you do exactly what I knew you'd do. New day, same ecofarm. But go ahead, keep ignoring official documentation, the NYTimes, Washington Post and LATimes. And you conflate Alex Jones with me! HAH!
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Why did your link dump include foreignpolicy.com?
 
Jango said:
I doubt the strike attempt would be successful anyway seeing as Putin is trained in physical combat and Bush isn't, at least, not anywhere to the level the KGB provides.
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Bush was pretty good at ducking that shoe thrown at him in Iraq. I think he trained for that.
 
iguanaman said:
Bush was pretty good at ducking that shoe thrown at him in Iraq. I think he trained for that.
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He had a head's up too as the man yelled before throwing.
 
Top Cat said:
Boehner: Bush would have punched Putin in the nose - CNN.com

Just STFU Boehner. Seriously. The Cowboy act doesn't hunt. Honestly. This helps diplomacy how exactly?
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This hypothesis could be "tested." If one recalls, after Georgia crossed a Russian "red line" regarding use of force to settle its dispute with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Russian military forces moved into those disputed areas. Today, both areas remain under Russian protection.
 
ecofarm said:
Why did your link dump include foreignpolicy.com?
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Your affiliation with USAID, a documented CIA front organizations, same as NED, has distorted your perception of reality. A little too much indoctrination perhaps. You may quality for Phd. BS, don't ya' know?
 
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