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    Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law


    The city of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, said a for-profit wedding chapel owned by two ministers doesn't have to perform same-sex marriages.
    http://m.kuow.org/?utm_referrer=http...F#mobile/43577

    Pretty much what I expected. As long as they are only doing religious services they are exempt from the law.
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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

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    Pretty much what I expected. As long as they are only doing religious services they are exempt from the law.
    Your link doesn't work?
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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Your link doesn't work?
    I tried a different news source.

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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

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    KUOW News and Information

    Pretty much what I expected. As long as they are only doing religious services they are exempt from the law.
    Pretty much what I expected. The city attorney and the jerks who cooked up that ordinance saw the people they were bullying had help in the form of lawyers who did not hesitate to sue in federal court, and lost their nerve. May the same happen to more supporters of the homosexual agenda. Down with leftist brownshirts everywhere.

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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Pretty much what I expected. The city attorney and the jerks who cooked up that ordinance saw the people they were bullying had help in the form of lawyers who did not hesitate to sue in federal court, and lost their nerve. May the same happen to more supporters of the homosexual agenda. Down with leftist brownshirts everywhere.
    Meh. I dunno many bullies who run to defend the very people they are being accused of bullying...

    The group that helped create Coeur d'Alene's anti-discrimination ordinance says the Hitching Post shouldn't have to perform same-sex marriages. The Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations says in a letter to the mayor and city council that the Knapps fall under the religious exemption in the law.
    But do not let the facts interfere in your little persecution narrative. You Godwinned a thread in less than 5 posts. Impressive.
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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

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    KUOW News and Information

    Pretty much what I expected. As long as they are only doing religious services they are exempt from the law.
    A quick look at their site seems to show they no longer are advertising that they do civil services, non-traditional services, or servies for other religions.

    If all they're offering is traditional christian ceremonies, even if some may be in a non-traditional location (like on a roller coaster), then I think this is the rightful ruling.

    If they start advertising that they're doing NON-Religious, or non-christian more specifically, ceremonies again then homosexual couples should be able to partake in those services without being denied due to their orientation because that "service" is not religious in nature.

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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A quick look at their site seems to show they no longer are advertising that they do civil services, non-traditional services, or servies for other religions.

    If all they're offering is traditional christian ceremonies, even if some may be in a non-traditional location (like on a roller coaster), then I think this is the rightful ruling.

    If they start advertising that they're doing NON-Religious, or non-christian more specifically, ceremonies again then homosexual couples should be able to partake in those services without being denied due to their orientation because that "service" is not religious in nature.


    I think the city and the members of the "task force" whose idea this ordinance appears to be tried to bully the owners with it, and when a powerful law group that defends cases like this took up the owners' cause and immediately sued in federal court, the locals gulped, reconsidered things, and reached what you call the "rightful ruling." As soon as they saw they were up against a formidable opponent, they had no heart for fighting.

    As I said earlier, I think this ordinance raises a free speech issue that is not affected at all by whether the owners are Christians, or whether they serve the public, or whether they do it for profit. The issue is whether a law unconstitutionally violates the freedom of speech, if it has the effect of compelling a private person, whether in business or not, to let other persons come on his property to foster or sponsor a message he disagrees with.

    I think the answer is yes. I also think the comments I quoted earlier by Justice Lewis Powell in Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins are right to this point. In that case, the Supreme Court of the U.S. upheld a California Supreme Court decision that said the owner of a large shopping mall could not prevent people from handing out pamphlets on his property against the mall owner's claim that it unconstitutionally compelled him to endorse the message of the pamphlets. (First Amendment protected speech includes all sorts of expressive behavior, e.g. topless dancing; and the constitutional protection includes the right not to speak.)

    Powell concurred with the decision--but he discussed several reasons why the result probably would be different in a case involving only a single small business, rather than a giant mall. He also noted that a law that compelled private persons to let other persons use their property to promote viewpoints they disagreed with might well also violate the general right to personal privacy the Court has found the Constitution to imply.

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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Pretty much what I expected. The city attorney and the jerks who cooked up that ordinance saw the people they were bullying had help in the form of lawyers who did not hesitate to sue in federal court, and lost their nerve. May the same happen to more supporters of the homosexual agenda.
    Down with leftist brownshirts everywhere.


    Down with all brownshirts, leftists,rightists and middle-of-the-roadists.

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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Down with all brownshirts, leftists,rightists and middle-of-the-roadists.
    True, classical liberals, who are usually called "conservatives" today, are strongly opposed to the kind of collectivist coercion fake "liberals" love so well. Calling us brownshirts would be silly, because we believe in the same personal liberties as the men who founded this country. It is statists who have contempt for those rights and for the Constitution that protects them. That's why they love ever more centralized government control, with ever more laws and regulations to push people around. Some of these people are promoting the homosexual agenda, and in doing that they put their intolerant bullying on full display. It looks like they may have gotten a splash of cold water in the face in this case. If leftist dim bulbs want to fight, they will get all the fight they ever wanted.

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    Re: Coeur d'Alene Says Hitching Post Is Exempt From Gay Rights Law

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    Down with all brownshirts, leftists,rightists and middle-of-the-roadists.
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