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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzaki View Post
    I agree that her comments don't necessarily bail her out when it comes to those who don't agree with her take on trickle down economics, but on the same token I don't think it's really necessary to over do it. The most simple way I can state the opinion I have is that when we start complaining about the other party taking our words out of context, and then continue doing it ourselves, there is no real surprise when we are labeled as hypocrites. It's probably a little too idealistic to wish for that to disappear in politics of course.
    but her words were not taken out of context
    she exhibited a lack of understanding about job creation when asserting that businesses do not create jobs
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Without demand their are no jobs or products. Ask a blacksmith.
    No business no jobs no jobs no demand. What do people with no jobs use for money?

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Public demand for products and services cretes jobs: Hilary is exactly right. Your post is senseless hairsplitting.
    The public must be employed to demand anything unless of course they have their own business they earn money from. Either way business creates the wealth that allows demand

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    This is one of those WOW just WOW moments. Could this leftist really be our next pres?

    "Appearing at a Boston rally for Democrat gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley on Friday, Hillary Clinton told the crowd gathered at the Park Plaza Hotel not to listen to anybody who says that “businesses create jobs.”

    “Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” Clinton said.

    Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'
    So long as we only vote for the republocrats, then yes, of course she could be our next president.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Was there a demand for NASCAR, or did someone create a product and market it? Job creation isn't driven strictly by demand.
    There certainly was a demand for NASCAR or it wouldn't exist now would it...
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    There certainly was a demand for NASCAR or it wouldn't exist now would it...
    There's a demand, now, someone created a product and marketted it.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    This is one of those WOW just WOW moments. Could this leftist really be our next pres?

    "Appearing at a Boston rally for Democrat gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley on Friday, Hillary Clinton told the crowd gathered at the Park Plaza Hotel not to listen to anybody who says that “businesses create jobs.”

    “Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” Clinton said.

    Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'
    Ya... apparently only government can create jobs.

    What's amazing was that the entire crowd agreed with her too... Where's the kid to point out that the (wanna be) emperor had no clothes.



    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Another thread on this, and as pointed out in that thread, it is a quote taken out of context. She is referring to "trickle down economics", or as it is referred to now since trickle down failed, "supply side economics"
    Ok... you seem to have said this with a straight face.

    First, your explanation does not make her statement any more valid.

    Second, the context is clear and not misrepresented.

    Third, she backed off of those comments, she did not try to explain the "proper context", she backed away. She KNOWS she was laying it on thick and got called on it.

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    And if you actually consider that past a talking point, she's absolutely right. Demand by consumers (whether they be other businesses or individuals or MIC) create the need for more product or service and then the business fills that need with more employees. DEMAND by CONSUMERS creates jobs, and not a damned thing else.
    Who hires people when consumers create demand? Even Karl Marx knew this.

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    No business no jobs no jobs no demand. What do people with no jobs use for money?
    Oh please. You just want Hilary to be wrong; but public demand for products and services is what creates jobs and businesses.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    sorry, but hillary got this one ALL wrong
    yes, without demand - or potential for demand - there is no basis for the employee to be on the job
    but that is not what she said
    her erroneous statement was that businesses do not create jobs
    then who the hell does?
    your employee can make five widgets a day
    demand is for six widgets daily
    do you, the business owner, hire another employee because of the demand exceeding the first employee's capacity
    or do you streamline how he performs and/or offer him overtime to fabricate the one extra widget that is needed
    just to illustrate that additional demand does not always result in additional job creation
    This is sort of a re-do of Obama's (businessmen) "don't do it alone". And they don't: usually they go through banks etc for loans: sometimes - a lot of times - through government loans, they have to have people to help get them up and running etc. Hillary's point is that businesses don't create jobs - out of thin air -if that were so, there'd be a lot more jobs available every day: if the corps and the wealthy created jobs there'd be zero unemployment in this country and the great depression wouldn't have happened. She's not making an anti business stament, but more telling a great truth; that without demand and spending power business is really nowhere and I think that is very true. Try and see through partisanship to what's really going on here. Mind you - I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but reality is just that. A business cannot be created unless it has a place to go and a reason to hire people.
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