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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Hillary may be a lot of things, but she is not an idiot. Its obvious what she meant is that demand creates jobs. es.
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    If she thinks that then she's an idiot.

    I think it's more a case where she has no clue about how businesses operate, but she does know what to say to the rubes.

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    There was no distortion.
    She knows she effed up and she walked it back pretty quickly.
    Reducing anything to a single line soundbite will distort the viewpoint. Or did you forget how Romney's 47%'er comments got twisted? For what it's worth I don't trust Hillary any farther than I can throw her and I view her policies even in context with disdane... but I don't need single line soundbites to determine whether I agree with her or not. I'm afraid we'll have to just agree to disagree.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzaki View Post
    Reducing anything to a single line soundbite will distort the viewpoint. Or did you forget how Romney's 47%'er comments got twisted? For what it's worth I don't trust Hillary any farther than I can throw her but I don't need single line soundbites to determine whether I agree with her or not.
    As was noted at the time, the rest of her comments didn't bail her out.

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    I agree that her comments don't necessarily bail her out when it comes to those who don't agree with her take on trickle down economics, but on the same token I don't think it's really necessary to over do it. The most simple way I can state the opinion I have is that when we start complaining about the other party taking our words out of context, and then continue doing it ourselves, there is no real surprise when we are labeled as hypocrites. It's probably a little too idealistic to wish for that to disappear in politics of course.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The real truth of the matter is that you'll not be creating very many jobs without both demand and business.

    That Hillary doubled down on such a ridiculous assertion that jobs aren't created by business does in fact show her to be pandering. Pandering to the far left, business hating part of the electorate. Like some of those that have posted here and made themselves be known. Something about an oral fixation and business if I recall.

    Without a thriving and growing business segment an economy is sure to flounder and fail. Just have to look at what Communist Russia's economic performance.

    Without demand, you've got nothing to drive business to invest and expand. So you can't really do without that either. Just look at the lagging demand of any recession, and you can see the downward economic spiral (demand lags, businesses lay off people, more demand lags, more businesses lay off people, lather, rinse, repeat).

    The reverse work equally well. Demand increases, businesses invest and grow, creating even more demand, lather, rinse, repeat. And upward economic spiral.

    The real pity here is that some some can't come to grips with the fact that both demand and business are required for the upward economic spiral, and pretty much give in to their partisan ideology and ignore that real facts here.

    Further, it's also a real pity that some are so pro-union, that they seem to propound the crippling of business in favor of the union so much so that the business would die. I guess they've never come to the realization that the two are co-dependent, and that without one, you won't long have the other; that the Union in fact relies on the business to be there, healthy and profitable, so as to be able to afford union labor.

    In both cases, it's a reasonably fair and reasonably equitable balance that it the best of all situations. Tilting too far from that reasonably fair and reasonably equitable balance and one of the parties involved will start to die, and directly affect the other with great detriment.
    All true to a point but without a job and an income you can't buy anything so you demand nothing

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Demand is an emotion...emotions cannot create anything.

    Only a human can create jobs.

    Hilary is wrong...and her context is irrelevant; her statement is factually impossible.
    Public demand for products and services cretes jobs: Hilary is exactly right. Your post is senseless hairsplitting.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Just because this woman got through Yale Law School, it doesn't mean she knows **** from Shinola. Her notions about economics are embarrassingly stupid, and they reveal her for what she is at heart--a communist.

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    How far do you get when you hook the horse to the rear of the wagon and try to make it push
    Without demand their are no jobs or products. Ask a blacksmith.
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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Without demand their are no jobs or products. Ask a blacksmith.
    Was there a demand for NASCAR, or did someone create a product and market it? Job creation isn't driven strictly by demand.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hillary: 'Don't Let Anybody Tell You' That 'Businesses Create Jobs'

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Public demand for products and services cretes jobs: Hilary is exactly right. Your post is senseless hairsplitting.
    sorry, but hillary got this one ALL wrong
    yes, without demand - or potential for demand - there is no basis for the employee to be on the job
    but that is not what she said
    her erroneous statement was that businesses do not create jobs
    then who the hell does?
    your employee can make five widgets a day
    demand is for six widgets daily
    do you, the business owner, hire another employee because of the demand exceeding the first employee's capacity
    or do you streamline how he performs and/or offer him overtime to fabricate the one extra widget that is needed
    just to illustrate that additional demand does not always result in additional job creation
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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