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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's not just this issue alone. homeland security could have been handled through existing infrastructure. likewise, the patriot act was an enormous overreach. both were passed during an emotional time for the country, and that's never a good time to rush something through.
    I agree. My argument was that even without DHS the result would have been the same.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I agree. My argument was that even without DHS the result would have been the same.
    i don't necessarily disagree. DHS was a redundant agency from its inception. where we disagree is the argument that stupid actions like this warrant a broad, sweeping condemnation of government in general. to make that argument is analogous to liberals who find something slimy that a corporation did and then use it to condemn all corporations and capitalism.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't necessarily disagree. DHS was a redundant agency from its inception. where we disagree is the argument that stupid actions like this warrant a broad, sweeping condemnation of government in general. to make that argument is analogous to liberals who find something slimy that a corporation did and then use it to condemn all corporations and capitalism.
    I believe that's called a generalization.
    And that both parties and all sides are guilty of one from time to time.
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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I believe that's called a generalization.
    And that both parties and all sides are guilty of one from time to time.
    this is true.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    My point was meant to be silly ... as silly as it is for the DHS to raid a shop for underwear.
    just what we need-a federal panty raid



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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't necessarily disagree. DHS was a redundant agency from its inception. where we disagree is the argument that stupid actions like this warrant a broad, sweeping condemnation of government in general. to make that argument is analogous to liberals who find something slimy that a corporation did and then use it to condemn all corporations and capitalism.
    How doesnt it? This action is an example of why we dont want DHS, which is an example of why govt is too big. Its all the same thing. That was my point.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    How doesnt it? This action is an example of why we dont want DHS, which is an example of why govt is too big. Its all the same thing. That was my point.
    does Enron condemn capitalism as a failure? does Thalidomide condemn modern medicine as a whole?

    reality is more nuanced than a bumper sticker slogan.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    does Enron condemn capitalism as a failure? does Thalidomide condemn modern medicine as a whole?

    reality is more nuanced than a bumper sticker slogan.
    You already used that one.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You already used that one.
    perhaps you'll read it this time.

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