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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im not a conservative. That was bumperstick libertarianism.
    i'm not a libertarian.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Protecting intellectual property is one of the things they are supposed to be doing.
    No it's not. DHS appears to justify this panty raid based on a customs violation.

    I'm in the screen printing business, and it is almost certain that the supposed infringement occurred after the blank textiles entered the country.

    Most screen printing of this nature is done locally. Mostly due to the time lag of imports vs the ability of the local printer getting the job done in a few hours.

    DHS needs to concentrate on securing the homeland, something at which they fail miserably, and leave copyright infringement to the department of copyright infringement, or in the civil courts.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Lets start off by pointing out that DHS is the proper agency to handle this



    Kansas City lingerie shopowners in a twist after Homeland Security's panty raid | Fox News

    A lawsuit would take more time than a cease and desist, it would cost more taxpayer money to have a trial and it would probably bankrupt a small business.

    So in short to satisfy your anti-DHS bloodlust you want to waste time, taxpayer money and destroy a small business. You sir are a monster.
    Again, unless these textiles were printed outside the US, which is unlikely, this is not a customs violation. It is a trademark violation. In my experience, these cases are handled in civil courts, if they get that far. Generally it's a cease and desist letter.

    It doesn't matter whether or not it would cost more to pursue through civil or criminal courts. It probably would cost more to defend a criminal charge. But that is not relevant. Law is not based on the cost to defend.

    There is possibly more to this story, but from the article, DHS has better things to do.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Law enforcement enforces law, outrage ensues
    Why aren't they enforcing border security? We have immigration laws, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm not a libertarian.
    Now that we're square on that, where is the nuance in being specifically opposed to DHS in contrast to being generally opposed to big govt, period?

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Now that we're square on that, where is the nuance in being specifically opposed to DHS in contrast to being generally opposed to big govt, period?
    one can be opposed to a government program without being opposed to government in general. that's the nuance.

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Again, unless these textiles were printed outside the US, which is unlikely, this is not a customs violation. It is a trademark violation. In my experience, these cases are handled in civil courts, if they get that far. Generally it's a cease and desist letter.

    It doesn't matter whether or not it would cost more to pursue through civil or criminal courts. It probably would cost more to defend a criminal charge. But that is not relevant. Law is not based on the cost to defend.

    There is possibly more to this story, but from the article, DHS has better things to do.
    That is what happened in this case maybe you should read up on it

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why aren't they enforcing border security? We have immigration laws, too.
    So because they arent up to par on enforcing immigration law they shouldnt bother enforcing any laws?

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, the DHS actually saved this small business from a ruinous lawsuit by raiding their panties and taking them off of he shelf?
    No the MLB saved a small business by only requesting a cease and desist and not suing them as you would have done

    Do you feel more secure knowing that the government has created such a powerful and all encompassing new agency to keep the homeland secure?
    Well i dont feel less secure

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    Re: DHS Agents Raid Lingerie Shop, Save America From Unlicensed Underwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    That is what happened in this case maybe you should read up on it
    Then it is a copyright issue, not a customs violation.

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