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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Of course, had we closed that travel, we would have left the Dr to die in West Africa. That is, unless, of course, you would prefer we continue to send one Gulfstream V per sick individual.

    What is becoming abundantly clear here is that health care workers that treat late stage ebola are most susceptible. The one case in Dallas that involved an infected person out and about in the community when he was contagious resulted in NO transmissions of the virus, even to his family members and girl friend. Experts have said all along that this is an extremely hard disease to convey. That appears to be true.

    This is really turning into much to do about nothing. The idea of cutting off travel is actually starting to appear to be not a particularly good idea.

    Relax. You are still far more likely to die in a mall shooting or car jacking.
    Who could have seen the spin coming? The doctor took a risk and decided to go, thats not a green light to come back with ebola. We aren't talking about probabilities here were are talking about something that should not have happened, but DID for Obama's **** politics.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    How will restricting travel prevent doctors from contracting Ebola while while they treat patients in Africa? That seems to be the problem now.
    It wont, it will prevent them from spreading the disease, here or to other nations. The morality rate for healthcare workers is currently something like 20%-but putting them on airplanes and allowing them to fly when they can clearly bypass screens is a BAD idea.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It wont, it will prevent them from spreading the disease, here or to other nations. The morality rate for healthcare workers is currently something like 20%-but putting them on airplanes and allowing them to fly when they can clearly bypass screens is a BAD idea.
    We really haven't seen any spreading except with healthcare workers dealing with late stage ebola. Perhaps a quarantine for those people would make sense. But the risk otherwise appears very small.
    The CDC appear to believe that HC workers will seek treatment before they become contagious and there is nothing happening that contradicts that is there?

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    We really haven't seen any spreading except with healthcare workers dealing with late stage ebola. Perhaps a quarantine for those people would make sense. But the risk otherwise appears very small.
    The CDC appear to believe that HC workers will seek treatment before they become contagious and there is nothing happening that contradicts that is there?
    We have also seen spread from migrants/immigrants here-again something that would be addressed with a travel ban. This is a serious disease-it needs to be respected.

    The CDC has been thoroughly discredited in this incident, largely because with Obama its about politics. You'd be better served getting data from WHO.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Nothing to worry about. Just because two healthcare workers got it the last time they treated an Ebola patient doesn't mean anything.

    As long as you don't accidently touch your skin removing your hazmat suits, you're fine.

    And remember the CDC says that until the very minute, maybe the very second, that someone shows signs of the Ebola infection---they ARE NOT contagious!

    So its safe to have have sex with infected Ebola suspects, give them backrubs, drink after them, breathe their air---just until they start running a fever and feeling bad.

    They stay away or face a 50% chance of dying.
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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Nothing to worry about. Just because two healthcare workers got it the last time they treated an Ebola patient doesn't mean anything.

    As long as you don't accidently touch your skin removing your hazmat suits, you're fine.

    And remember the CDC says that until the very minute, maybe the very second, that someone shows signs of the Ebola infection---they ARE NOT contagious!

    So its safe to have have sex with infected Ebola suspects, give them backrubs, drink after them, breathe their air---just until they start running a fever and feeling bad.

    They stay away or face a 50% chance of dying.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We have also seen spread from migrants/immigrants here-again something that would be addressed with a travel ban. This is a serious disease-it needs to be respected.

    The CDC has been thoroughly discredited in this incident, largely because with Obama its about politics. You'd be better served getting data from WHO.
    Exactly, but it's worse than that, the CDC already has protocols for dealing with outbreaks, and one of the first things listed is exactly creating quarantine.

    Shutting down the borders does not mean that you can't leave, under the circumstance it should be if there's a risk to you than you may have to go into quarantine for a few weeks.

    The more it spreads, the more it mutates, the more it mutates the more likely that it will become an airborne virus (from what I've heard that would reduce the lethality of it though), if it goes airborne, because of the slow process before developing symptoms, we would be several weeks behind the ball of where the outbreak is.. and if it did go airborne, then it really becomes the luck of the draw.

    Edit: that said, this is concern about the handling of the outbreak... This isn't at a point of panic. If it got to where there were 1000 s of people in my city infected, then I would start to panic some.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Exactly, but it's worse than that, the CDC already has protocols for dealing with outbreaks, and one of the first things listed is exactly creating quarantine.

    Shutting down the borders does not mean that you can't leave, under the circumstance it should be if there's a risk to you than you may have to go into quarantine for a few weeks.

    The more it spreads, the more it mutates, the more it mutates the more likely that it will become an airborne virus (from what I've heard that would reduce the lethality of it though), if it goes airborne, because of the slow process before developing symptoms, we would be several weeks behind the ball of where the outbreak is.. and if it did go airborne, then it really becomes the luck of the draw.

    Edit: that said, this is concern about the handling of the outbreak... This isn't at a point of panic. If it got to where there were 1000 s of people in my city infected, then I would start to panic some.
    I haven't seen panic, Ive seen many people (including with advanced medical training) concerned about the obvious failures of our CDC-its the other side attempting to paint that as panic. As if there isn't cause for legitimate concern.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I haven't seen panic, Ive seen many people (including with advanced medical training) concerned about the obvious failures of our CDC-its the other side attempting to paint that as panic. As if there isn't cause for legitimate concern.
    No, exactly, the only panic is those people that are panicking that the cdc is proving itself completely incompetent in even following their own protocols.

    If anyone else is unsure, ebola is classified as a level 4 contagion. So, that means BSL-4 protocols... The sad reality, if there is a serious outbreak, even at my modest threshold of 1000 people in multiple cities coming down with this, simply put, our medical system will have to go into a triage mode, if not begin to collapse outright.

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    Re: Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

    Stricter quarantines for dealing with potential Ebola cases in the U.S. could discourage health workers from volunteering in the impacted West African countries, thereby making the outbreak harder to contain, experts say.

    New York, New Jersey and Illinois announced mandatory 21-day quarantines for those arriving back in the United States after having direct contact with Ebola-infected individuals in West Africa. The outbreak — the largest in history — has left more than 10,000 people infected and nearly 5,000 dead, the World Health Organization announced Saturday.

    Experts: Quarantines may dissuade Ebola volunteers
    What kind of humanitarian is willing to risk his life by going into an Ebola ward but is also willing to take the risk of coming home and spreading the disease among his countrymen? Maybe that humanitarian needs to stay home, or he simply doesn't exist.
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