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Information Operations. More like "we don't want to enable terrorists in killing people"
How would the pictures do that?
Information Operations. More like "we don't want to enable terrorists in killing people"
Nor should we. Investigate, and prosecute if it is required, but there is absolutely no reason to give the Jihadists more fuel (pictures that can be interpreted different ways) to add to the flames of terrorism.
Really. What here is torture?
I don't know. Let's see the photos and decide for ourselves.
What in Abu Graib? The girl with the leash? You don't seem to be able to be very specific. So it's an unspecified crime, huh. Sounds like pure propaganda.
So, who's side are you on, anyway?
What in Abu Graib? The girl with the leash? You don't seem to be able to be very specific. So it's an unspecified crime, huh. Sounds like pure propaganda.
How would the pictures do that?
Recruitment, fund-raising, inspiration - you name it.
Are you really unaware (for example) of the power that the Abu Ghraib pictures had in enabling AQI?
Perhaps these include a few of the dead ones that didn't respond well to "enhanced interrogation.? Eh?
Truth always comes out and should. The USA and our allies need to know where our tax dollars are going and the results of our policies. Our enemies already hate us. If new people start hating us it would be because they know the truth about what we do.
You reap what you sow. When ISIS beheaded people it probably helped recruit people to join their opponents.
I don't have a problem with the truth coming out. It should. But there's no need to feed the rabid dogs fresh meat by releasing the pictures. We don't show the pictures of the bloody mangled bodies homicide victims on TV or in the newspaper, and we shouldn't show these either.
We show the pictures of people massacred in war and killed in genocidal mass murders. Many people need to see things to really understand them.
No - not in this instance. The Jihadists will not go after our government officials that ordered or committed this. They will kill innocent Americans. Unless you think that all citizens of the US should reap the horror that could be brought by showing these pictures, I don't think there is any comparison in your statement of "you reap what you sow."
So, you do feel that all US civilians should be harmed by this? Good to know.
Americans decided to legalize government torture for the first time in our history. Someone should have thought about the consequences before they started. Many of us warned them.
I never support violence accept for self defense. My position is that all torturers should be given a fair trial. If they can justify the torture as truly necessary they will be acquitted. I am not interested in covering up our government's crimes to be a little safer.
Beaten, forced to eat food out of a toilet, sexually assaulted: New Details of Prison Abuse Emerge (washingtonpost.com)
Also many people have died under our control as well while being "enhancedly interrogated"
Where did I condone covering anything up? I clearly stated that they needed to be investigated and prosecuted if it was deemed that they did torture. What I have a problem with, but you seem to not, is causing harm to innocent civilians by the release of the pictures.
Think about it a minute... if you condone release of the pictures, you are in fact condoning the harming of innocent civilians, which is not violence in self defense like you say you only believe in.
Don't be silly. That is an old article I read years ago. That was mistreatment, but not torture.
US Soldiers arent part of the government?Also it was not the government.
:roll:It was some idiots getting their kicks. There might have been torture by government. That was not it.
:lamo Of course it isnt, besides just about every human rights document and the Geneva Convention we have signed on to describes it as torture.
US Soldiers arent part of the government?
:roll:
I'm on the side that doesn't torture and murder and respects human rights.
I'm on the side of the good op USA