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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    lol its been how many years after the fact? I dont think the old regime was in control of that yellow cake.
    Gee, where did it come from, then? Ya think Joe Wilson lied his ass off when he said Niger wasn't selling yellow cake to Iraq?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Perhaps, but these would obviously serve as recruiting tools for furthering their cause. Don't pour fuel on a fire, etc.
    They don't neex recruiting tools. They already hate us. They hated us before we tortured anybody. Being nice to them isn't going to do any good. Canada tried that approach and look what good it did.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you knew you could save American lives by toturing a prisoner, would you do it?
    No, and these people were not trying to save American lives. They were trying to feel powerful and to get this feeling they abused fellow human beings.

    Do you remember the old excuse people like yourself used for these people? "Oh, they were just stressed", because as we all know how to deal with stress is to strip people naked, make them bark like dogs, force them to masturbate, and for good measure rape a few of them. Yup, I hear everyone does that kind of stuff when they get stressed. Yup.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, and these people were not trying to save American lives. They were trying to feel powerful and to get this feeling they abused fellow human beings.

    Do you remember the old excuse people like yourself used for these people? "Oh, they were just stressed", because as we all know how to deal with stress is to strip people naked, make them bark like dogs, force them to masturbate, and for good measure rape a few of them. Yup, I hear everyone does that kind of stuff when they get stressed. Yup.
    So, you would do nothing while Americans died? So much for principle. You post says it all.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you would do nothing while Americans died? So much for principle. You post says it all.
    Did you ever consider that my principles include not torturing people?

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Did you ever consider that my principles include not torturing people?
    My principles don't include doing nothing while others die for my principles. I hope you can sleep well at night.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My principles don't include doing nothing while others die for my principles. I hope you can sleep well at night.
    Sure, and how much will torturing people help your cause? As for me, I can think of more effective and less inhumane ways to save peoples lives.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    I'm still waiting for the photos of a dead Osama bin Laden to be released.

    Oh wait a sec, someone already issued an unlawful order that they be destroyed.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sure, and how much will torturing people help your cause? As for me, I can think of more effective and less inhumane ways to save peoples lives.
    If I obtain information that saves American lives, it helped my cause tremendously. I put my country and my countrymen ahead of any ideology, but then my ideology isn't anti-American, by nature.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If I obtain information that saves American lives, it helped my cause tremendously. I put my country and my countrymen ahead of any ideology, but then my ideology isn't anti-American, by nature.
    You know, I'm not really interested in this little "my ideology is the one true American ideology" fight. Not only is it stupid, but it is completely laughable that people like you would think their ideology would qualify. Anyway, chances are you will get false information because the individual in question just wants you to stop abusing them. I sure hope all that torture didn't take up valuable time that you could have been using on effective methods.

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