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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you bothered to look it up, you'd see that nationalism and patriotism are synonymous.
    A nation is a tool, not something to praise or make part of yourself. A nation doesn't earn my loyalty because there is nothing to be loyal towards. It is a tool that if it is to my benefit I accept, and if it is not, I don't.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    A nation is a tool, not something to praise or make part of yourself. A nation doesn't earn my loyalty because there is nothing to be loyal towards. It is a tool that if it is to my benefit I accept, and if it is not, I don't.
    If you knew you could save American lives by roughing up a prisoner, would you do it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    No, I'll continue being pissed off that my country is starting unnecessary wars and torturing innocent people. Neither mexican children crossing a line in the sand nor a disease that has killed a grand total of one person, and isn't even airborne mind you, concern me as much as the blatant killing of innocents. Immigration and ebola are nothing but distractions from the crimes against humanity being committed by the US Government.
    So, it's ideology you stand on, not principle.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, it's ideology you stand on, not principle.
    It's called being a decent ****ing human being.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    So, you do feel that all US civilians should be harmed by this? Good to know.
    You are living your life in a santa clause theory. Of course people need to know and see reality to make real choices.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    It's called being a decent ****ing human being.
    If you knew you could save American lives by toturing a prisoner, would you do it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Americans? All Americans? Are you an American? I thought only certain government officials did this?

    I seriously can't fathom why you feel it's okay to harm innocent civilians, even if they are Americans?
    You cant really argue that if even 1 innocent got tortured. That would be hypocritical.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    We show the pictures of people massacred in war and killed in genocidal mass murders. Many people need to see things to really understand them.
    What mass murder?
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you notice the 500 tons of yellow cake that was revealed recently? It was a violation of the 1991 cease fire agreement, along with several UN resolutions.

    There are bad people out there and there are no points for second place.
    lol its been how many years after the fact? I dont think the old regime was in control of that yellow cake.
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    Re: US ordered to explain withholding of Iraq and Afghanistan torture photos

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Perhaps, but these would obviously serve as recruiting tools for furthering their cause. Don't pour fuel on a fire, etc.
    Or what if it was actually really really horrible. And then Americans changed their governments based on seeing the horror. And then fixed a few problems. And that made it easier to friendly with the scary chanting brown people and figure out who really is a threat.
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