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Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

Right. And a gun in the household is more likely to cause harm than No Gun in the household.

not true. there are hundreds of thousands of cases of crimes stopped by armed homeowners.

do you think gay parents are somehow a danger compared to straight ones. that appears to be what you are insinuating
 
its all about harassment

it could have a chilling effect on a right

can you imagine if a school required someone to disclose to the school that they were

You still haven't explained how it restricts you from owning guns.


Done at hospitals, census, etc. However, let's say hypothetically, you had to declare you were gay. How would reporting it deny you the right to engage in homosexual acts?

2) a member of what is considered a cult

Again, census.

3) addicted to drugs

Why would you have to disclose that?

4) using medicinal marijuana

This is already done at hospitals.

there is absolutely no legitimate reason for such a requirement.

You are still not answering the question: How does having to tell a school that your household have a gun restrict you from gun ownership? How does reporting a stolen gun restrict you from ownership of guns.
 
Is having a homosexual in the household a similar potential danger to the other schoolchildren?

I don't think having either in the household is a significant potential danger. Which is why I don't think the school has any business collecting data on either.

Should I take your post to imply that you do believe that the data collected could and probably would be used for the purposes mentioned?

If not, then why would the schools need the data? On either gays or guns.
 
You still haven't explained how it restricts you from owning guns.



Done at hospitals, census, etc. However, let's say hypothetically, you had to declare you were gay. How would reporting it deny you the right to engage in homosexual acts?



Again, census.



Why would you have to disclose that?



This is already done at hospitals.



You are still not answering the question: How does having to tell a school that your household have a gun restrict you from gun ownership? How does reporting a stolen gun restrict you from ownership of guns.

when it comes to constitutional rights, the government bears a heavy burden to show that the restriction or imposition will further a clear public good. How does that law further this.

your question is stupid. The duty is not on us to prove a restriction is too bad, but rather on the proponents to prove it is legitimate
 
Private information. People should have the right to silence about what is in their own household, it's nobodies business.
 
not true. there are hundreds of thousands of cases of crimes stopped by armed homeowners.

do you think gay parents are somehow a danger compared to straight ones. that appears to be what you are insinuating

No, the opposite. Gay parents pose no additional danger. Guns do.
 
No, the opposite. Gay parents pose no additional danger. Guns do.

so tell me, what exactly is this information going to be used to do?

subject the children to increased scrutiny-a clear violation

nothing-then the law is worthless and unconstitutional

so tell us?
 
No, the opposite. Gay parents pose no additional danger. Guns do.

You, of course have data to support your opinion. On either statement.

Please share.
 
You, of course have data to support your opinion. On either statement.

Please share.

Soon as one of you guys shares evidence of this woman supporting larger gun control measures.
 
when it comes to constitutional rights, the government bears a heavy burden to show that the restriction or imposition will further a clear public good. How does that law further this.
Easy: Gun is stolen, used in a crime. This law ensures that by reporting it, liability is no longer an issue for the legal gun owner. It's no different than having to report your car stolen. You know, just in case it's used in a drive-by or something of that sort.
your question is stupid. The duty is not on us to prove a restriction is too bad, but rather on the proponents to prove it is legitimate
Funny, if I didn't know better - I'd say you're trying to claim that as long as you scream "You're restricting my rights!" others have to prove it doesn't. When in fact, it's also on you to prove that it does in fact restrict your rights. With that said, you claimed the laws restrict your right to bear guns. I asked how. You've spent the better part of 5 posts ducking and dodging a simple question. How does it restrict your right to bear arms? Tell us.
 
Soon as one of you guys shares evidence of this woman supporting larger gun control measures.

I never claimed she had supported other gun measures nor that she hadn't.

So ignore the other guys, and share your information with me.

I'll promise those other guys won't peek.
 
Easy: Gun is stolen, used in a crime. This law ensures that by reporting it, liability is no longer an issue for the legal gun owner. It's no different than having to report your car stolen. You know, just in case it's used in a drive-by or something of that sort. Funny, if I didn't know better - I'd say you're trying to claim that as long as you scream "You're restricting my rights!" others have to prove it doesn't. When in fact, it's also on you to prove that it does in fact restrict your rights. With that said, you claimed the laws restrict your right to bear guns. I asked how. You've spent the better part of 5 posts ducking and dodging a simple question. How does it restrict your right to bear arms? Tell us.

fail, we are talking about the parental notification, not the reporting stolen guns. you should report a stolen gun ASAP.


YOu can defend that twit all you want but I notice you haven't come close to telling us what that parental notification is useful and how will it be used.

it restricts rights if people are going to be harassed or their children harassed for owning a gun

and you have avoided telling us what good the law does

before I have to justify why the law is bad, you best prove why it should exist in the first place
 
Soon as one of you guys shares evidence of this woman supporting larger gun control measures.

Bingo!

That's a no.

Busted.
 
The article cites two. I'm waiting for the rest. And you can't seem to tell us what restricts gun ownership in either of them.



Lmao, invasive is up to the beholder. You've spent 3 posts bull****ting me without answering the question here.



Funny, I have to inform schools if my kid has an allergy, needs medicines, has a special diet, can't see well, etc. None of those things restrict me from owning medicine, food or glasses. How does having to tell a school if you own guns (you know seeing how common school shootings are these days) restrict your right to own guns.

Well---here's another biggie on Sen Nasheed Gun voing record:

May 15, 2014

SB 656

Authorizes School Employees to Carry Firearms on School Property

Conference Report Adopted - Senate
(21 - 8)

Nay

And this:

April 30, 2014

HB 1439

Prohibits Enforcement of Federal Firearm Regulations

Bill Passed - Senate
(23 - 8)

Nay

Title: Authorizes School Employees to Carry Firearms on School Property

Vote Smart's Synopsis:

Vote to override a veto of a bill that authorizes certain school employees to carry firearms on school property.

Highlights:
•Authorizes a school district to designate at least 1 individual who is a teacher or administrator to be a “school protection officer” and carry a concealed firearm or a self-defense spray device in any school in the district (Sec. A).
•Requires the school board to hold a public hearing before a school district may designate a teacher or administrator as a school protection officer (Sec. A).
•Prohibits a school district from authorizing an individual to carry a concealed firearm on school property unless the individual has a valid concealed carry permit (Sec. A).
•Prohibits a school district from designating an individual as a school protection officer unless the individual has successfully completed a training program which includes certain topics, including, but not limited to, the following topics (Sec. A):
•Instruction on preventing school violence;
•Instruction on emergency or violent crisis situations; and
•Instruction on the use of self-defense spray devices.
•Authorizes a school protection officer to detain or use force against an individual on school property in order to prevent “imminent” injury to themselves or another individual (Sec. A).
•Requires a school protection officer to transfer a detained individual to a school administrator or law enforcement officer as soon as possible and within no more than 1 hour (Sec. A).
•Prohibits a school protection officer from allowing any firearm or self-defense spray device to leave their control while on school property, and classifies a violation of this provision as a class B misdemeanor (Sec. A).
•Authorizes an individual with a valid concealed carry permit to openly carry a firearm in a jurisdiction that has an ordinance prohibiting the open carry of firearms (Sec. A).
•Reduces the minimum age required to receive a concealed carry permit from 21 years of age to 19 years of age (Sec. A).
•Prohibits a housing authority which receives public funds from prohibiting an occupant or guest from possessing firearms anywhere on the housing premises (Sec. A).
•Prohibits healthcare professionals from being required to ask or maintain records about a patient’s ownership of or access to firearms (Sec. A).


April 16, 2009

HB 668

Firearm Regulation Amendments

Bill Passed - House
(105 - 50)

Nay
Title: Firearm Regulation Amendments

Vote Smart's Synopsis:

Vote to pass a bill that lowers the minimum age for a concealed weapon permit, allows deadly force in instances of private property protection, and allows concealed firearms in any higher education institution.

Highlights:
-Specifies that the individual who owns or leases the private property may use deadly force, without a duty to retreat from the property, against a person who unlawfully enters, remains after unlawfully entering, or attempts to unlawfully enter private property (Sec. 563.031.2). -Lowers the minimum age requirement for obtaining a concealed carry endorsement from 23 years of age to 21 years of age (Sec. 571.101.2). -Removes the provisions prohibiting a person with a valid concealed carry endorsement or permit from carrying a concealed firearm into any higher education institution (Sec. 571.107.1). -Requires political subdivisions to regulate firearms in the same manner as the state, except that political subdivisions are allowed to prohibit illegal immigrants from selling, purchasing, transferring, owning, using, or possessing firearms, components, or ammunition (Sec. 21.750.2).

What a raving hyporite this woman is! She has the gall to carry her own weapon on her without a licence--yet refuses to let teachers arm themselves! And she won't allow a law for you to use deadly force to protect yourself with your own weapon.

Project Vote Smart - The Voter's Self Defense System

Is that enough restrictions for you???????????????????????????????
 
fail, we are talking about the parental notification,

Ah, so now it's the parental notification. Fine - simple: By reporting to the school that they own guns, (good or bad) parents are made aware that if their children have unrestricted access to those guns - they will be held responsible for the actions of their children if anything were to happen. So now, with that said: How does being held accountable for the actions of your kids restrict you from gun ownership?
 
Ah, so now it's the parental notification. Fine - simple: By reporting to the school that they own guns, (good or bad) parents are made aware that if their children have unrestricted access to those guns - they will be held responsible for the actions of their children if anything were to happen. So now, with that said: How does being held accountable for the actions of your kids restrict you from gun ownership?


again that is stupid assuming unrestricted access

its all about liberal idiots wanting to stigmatize gun ownership.

your question is stupid, and a straw man. if a kid brings a gun to school and it is determined to be the parent's gun the parent is in hot water. TELL ME what good this stupid law does.

the law you seem to support (maybe because its a black Democrat pushing it and it appears to be directed against white conservatives) does nothing additional other than try to stigmatize gun ownership
 
Voted against the same "school employees carry guns" bill twice, and also voted against a blatantly unconstitutional rejection of Federal laws a couple of times.

What federal laws do you support that infringe upon the rights of honest citizens to keep and bear arms at their homes and on their persons???

You are the very last person on this earth who would support an infringement-free right to keep and bear arms.

Also you belive it is good that a drunken, heckling radical like Nasheed can walk walk around with her own gun to protect her own ***, but then not allow teachers with proper training and a concealed carry permit to help defend their school children??

Your defense of this self-serving human wastepile is pretty desperate.
 
What federal laws do you support that infringe upon the rights of honest citizens to keep and bear arms at their homes and on their persons???

You are the very last person on this earth who would support an infringement-free right to keep and bear arms.

Also you belive it is good that a drunken, heckling radical like Nasheed can walk walk around with her own gun to protect her own ***, but then not allow teachers with proper training and a concealed carry permit to help defend their school children??

Your defense of this self-serving human wastepile is pretty desperate.

Man you guys really jump to this caricature of a liberal at the drop of a hat. I called her school reporting bill bull**** that accomplishes nothing, I guess that wasn't good enough for you.
States do not have the authority to reject Federal laws like that.
 
Man you guys really jump to this caricature of a liberal at the drop of a hat.
States do not have the authority to reject Federal laws like that.

They do when the federal laws are unconstitutional in themselves.

Isn't your motto "I love infringement?"
 
They do when the federal laws are unconstitutional in themselves.

Isn't your motto "I love infringement?"

I called her school reporting law bull**** that accomplishes nothing. How exactly did you decide I want to take away all your guns?
 
My never-ending ideas? Are you under the impression that I am a state legislator?

How would I know?

Anyway, what gun control laws do you support? I do believe you mentioned background checks for gun purchases and transfers and gun registrations.
 
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