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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you know what happens to a teacher who discusses a student's school record openly with people they're not supposed to?



    Alright, I'm going to say this: That scenario wouldn't work well under any circumstance for the school. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen so there is no interest in using the fact that the kid's parents own guns if the situation doesn't call for it. Not only would the parents have grounds to claim that their children was discriminated against, it would be a **** storm for the school disctrict.
    and you don't think some anti gun NEA nutcase might down grade a kid whose parents have guns?

    its something the school doesn't need to know



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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ....its something the school doesn't need to know
    That's what it comes down to in the end, for me.

    The schools have no reason or right to have that information.
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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and you don't think some anti gun NEA nutcase might down grade a kid whose parents have guns?

    its something the school doesn't need to know
    Btw - this is the anti-gun politician you're discussing:

    SB613 - Modifies provisions relating to firearms

    This act allows a school district to designate one or more school teachers or administrators as a school protection officer. School protection officers are authorized to carry a concealed firearm or self-defense spray device.
    The officer must keep the firearm or device under his or her personal control at all times while on school property.
    SB556 - Creates reporting requirements for lost or stolen firearms, expands the list of crimes that are eligible for expungement, and creates a gun buyback pilot program

    This act provides that the open carrying of a firearm may not be prohibited by a political subdivision for any person with a valid concealed carry endorsement or permit in his or her possession who presents such endorsement or permit upon the demand of a law enforcement officer. In addition, no person carrying a concealed or unconcealed handgun may be disarmed or physically restrained by a law enforcement officer unless under arrest or if there is no reasonable and articulable suspicion of criminal activity.
    SB613 - Modifies provisions relating to firearms

    Under this act, no public officer or state employee has the authority to enforce firearms laws declared invalid by the act.
    This act declares as invalid all federal laws that infringe on the right to bear arms under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Article I, Section 23 of the Missouri Constitution.
    SB565 - Requires firearm owners to report the loss or theft of a firearm to a local law enforcement agency

    Failure to report the loss or theft of a firearm is punishable by a fine of $1,000. Any subsequent offense of failing to report as required is a Class A misdemeanor.
    Sounds like an anti-gun nut alright.
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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    tl dr

    schools have no legitimate need to know



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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and you don't think some anti gun NEA nutcase might down grade a kid whose parents have guns?
    Hm... so... let me get this straight, if I'm following this new argument now - are we supposed to conceal information from schools because someone who opposes X may downgrade our kids? Great argument for segregation. If there is a white/black teacher who doesn't like black/white kids, then the only logical solution is to keep kids segregated. No Turtle, that's not a convincing argument either.

    its something the school doesn't need to know
    Well start with that! Instead of saying this is anti-gun legislation. It isn't. Hey, if you oppose it because you don't feel that information shouldn't be given to the school, that's fine - but don't come on the forum saying it's "anti-gun" when the bills are filled with pro-gun language.
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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    tl dr

    schools have no legitimate need to know
    Well, at least you've given up on the anti-gun argument. Good stuff, Turtle. Never let them see you wave the white flag.
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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You still haven't told us what legitimate reason the school has
    Why, they are evil guns, of course.
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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hm... so... let me get this straight, if I'm following this new argument now - are we supposed to conceal information from schools because someone who opposes X may downgrade our kids? Great argument for segregation. If there is a white/black teacher who doesn't like black/white kids, then the only logical solution is to keep kids segregated. No Turtle, that's not a convincing argument either.



    Well start with that! Instead of saying this is anti-gun legislation. It isn't. Hey, if you oppose it because you don't feel that information shouldn't be given to the school, that's fine - but don't come on the forum saying it's "anti-gun" when the bills are filled with pro-gun language.
    we shouldn't have to conceal anything because the school has no business knowing it



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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, at least you've given up on the anti-gun argument. Good stuff, Turtle. Never let them see you wave the white flag.
    no one has made a sensible argument for this law. And since I doubt anyone on this board understands gun crime investigations better than i do, I know the arguments are specious that have been proffered in favor of this stupid law.



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    Re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hm... so... let me get this straight, if I'm following this new argument now - are we supposed to conceal information from schools because someone who opposes X may downgrade our kids? Great argument for segregation. If there is a white/black teacher who doesn't like black/white kids, then the only logical solution is to keep kids segregated. No Turtle, that's not a convincing argument either.



    Well start with that! Instead of saying this is anti-gun legislation. It isn't. Hey, if you oppose it because you don't feel that information shouldn't be given to the school, that's fine - but don't come on the forum saying it's "anti-gun" when the bills are filled with pro-gun language.
    Personally, I am of the opinion that preferably no one (other than friends/family) and at worst only law enforcement should be aware of any firearms or weapons I own.
    Education.

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