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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So laws which tell people to report stolen cars... are anti-car? No. That's silly.



    Personally? None. I just don't agree that it's anti-gun in any way shape or form. Schools have policies which tell parents that educators will not be held responsible if a child's allergy is not reported. The same goes for this, parents who don't report that they have firearms at home should be held responsible if the child uses their gun in a school shooting.
    Well bully for you.

    It would make more sense to go after parents with children with untreated mental conditions, exactly like Adam Lanza.

    The common thread in school shootings is usually some deranged moron.

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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How many children own guns?
    None legally.

    My 11 y/o does claim ownership of my .45 1911.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I agree. But this hardly makes her an "anti-gun zealot." It's reactionary bull**** to school shootings, and, given the lack of any actual penalty, is largely symbolic. The real thrust of that provision was actually punishing parents who leave guns unsecured which are then used by their child to kill someone. Again, hardly zealous behavior.
    Really? I call it government intrusion.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Well bully for you.

    It would make more sense to go after parents with children with untreated mental conditions, exactly like Adam Lanza.
    Mental conditions are a lot harder/more expensive to diagnose than simply making the school aware that there is a gun in your household.

    The common thread in school shootings is usually some deranged moron.
    With access to weapons. In some cases, those owned by their parents:

    Samuel Epps, 11, shoots himself dead with father's gun after argument over chores | Daily Mail Online
    Portland father of 11-year-old who used his gun in carjacking attempt should spend 21 months in prison, prosecutor recommends | OregonLive.com
    Kao Xiong, accidental child shooting death: A 4-year-boy killed his 2-year-old brother and the father was convicted of manslaughter. Good.
    Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    hortly after 9:35 am, using his mother's Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle,[29][30][31] Lanza shot his way through a glass panel next to the locked front entrance doors of the school.[32][33][34] He was wearing black clothing, yellow earplugs, sunglasses,[35] an olive green utility vest, and was carrying magazines for the rifle.[36] Initial reports that he had been wearing body armor were incorrect.[37] Some of those present heard initial shots on the school intercom system, which was being used for morning announcements.[20]
    Again, this isn't as draconian a policy as you make it out to be. There are shootings, and the school should be made aware that there are certain kids with access to guns.

    I know exactly what my kids do and think because I care about them.
    Good for ya. I never attack good parenting. However, this isn't a control measure in the least. There are absolutely zero restrictions to gun ownership within the laws cited. It's funny that Turtle couldn't simply admit that.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Mental conditions are a lot harder/more expensive to diagnose than simply making the school aware that there is a gun in your household.



    With access to weapons. In some cases, those owned by their parents:

    Samuel Epps, 11, shoots himself dead with father's gun after argument over chores | Daily Mail Online
    Portland father of 11-year-old who used his gun in carjacking attempt should spend 21 months in prison, prosecutor recommends | OregonLive.com
    Kao Xiong, accidental child shooting death: A 4-year-boy killed his 2-year-old brother and the father was convicted of manslaughter. Good.
    Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Again, this isn't as draconian a policy as you make it out to be. There are shootings, and the school should be made aware that there are certain kids with access to guns.



    Good for ya. I never attack good parenting. However, this isn't a control measure in the least. There are absolutely zero restrictions to gun ownership within the laws cited. It's funny that Turtle couldn't simply admit that.
    Surely his concern is the gathering of a list of gun owners, and potential future repercussions, which I agree with.

    The difference is terminology driven by beliefs.

    Call it whatever you want, but I absolutely disagree with giving away any personal information to anyone - there is safety in privacy.

    Several years ago in Florida, they passed a law that did not allow physicians to ask patients if they had guns in the home.

    I find that law to be completely ridiculous, because all you have to do is say 'none of your business'.

    More laws are bad, and more bad laws is much worse.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Surely his concern is the gathering of a list of gun owners, and potential future repercussions, which I agree with.

    The difference is terminology driven by beliefs.

    Call it whatever you want, but I absolutely disagree with giving away any personal information to anyone - there is safety in privacy.

    Several years ago in Florida, they passed a law that did not allow physicians to ask patients if they had guns in the home.

    I find that law to be completely ridiculous, because all you have to do is say 'none of your business'.

    More laws are bad, and more bad laws is much worse.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Surely his concern is the gathering of a list of gun owners, and potential future repercussions, which I agree with.
    Gun owners who have children attending the school and whose children could bring guns to school. That's a pretty specific law to pass. However, after 14 pages nobody has shown how it restricts the right of those parents to own the guns.

    The difference is terminology driven by beliefs.

    Call it whatever you want, but I absolutely disagree with giving away any personal information to anyone - there is safety in privacy.

    Several years ago in Florida, they passed a law that did not allow physicians to ask patients if they had guns in the home.

    I find that law to be completely ridiculous, because all you have to do is say 'none of your business'.

    More laws are bad, and more bad laws is much worse.
    Different issue altogether. Whenever you have privacy concerns, it's up to you to decide how much information the school can disclose:

    Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)

    Schools may disclose, without consent, "directory" information such as a student's name, address, telephone number, date and place of birth, honors and awards, and dates of attendance. However, schools must tell parents and eligible students about directory information and allow parents and eligible students a reasonable amount of time to request that the school not disclose directory information about them.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is having a homosexual in the household a similar potential danger to the other schoolchildren?
    So anyone who owns a gun is a potential danger to a school?

    Sheer lunacy...
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If you ever filled out a census form, you have given the government plenty of information about you that it can use.
    Of course - they get the minimum from me.
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    re: Liberal Gun Control Activist Caught Packing Gun[W:188]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Gun owners who have children attending the school and whose children could bring guns to school. That's a pretty specific law to pass. However, after 14 pages nobody has shown how it restricts the right of those parents to own the guns.



    Different issue altogether. Whenever you have privacy concerns, it's up to you to decide how much information the school can disclose:

    Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)
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