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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    okay. If ya'll are so out there that you have to insist that the GOP supporting its' own Presidential Candidate is some kind of proof of nefariousness, well, enjoy the view, I suppose
    Not sure who you're stating as "y'all." I wouldn't vote for him anyway, too right-winged for my tastes. I just thought this would be interesting to those on this forum that have continually told me Rand is "different" and an "outsider."

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A rather key qualifier you are leaving out:



    Um. Duh?
    I see someone is paying attention here. I'm surprised how few are, though. Stating that you'd support the republican nominee simply makes sense for a republican. The fact that McCain is indicating that he'd rather vote for Rand Paul than Hillary Clinton if Rand Paul ended up winning the nomination doesn't say diddly about how "establishment" Rand Paul is.

    Oh, and just for the record, I think it's ridiculous to decide who you're going to vote for based on how much support someone gets from "establishment" politicians. How "establishment" a politician is doesn't tell us anything meaningful about how they will perform.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Nah, McCain said in 2012 he would not back a Ron Paul presidency regardless of if he got the nomination or not. What also concerned me was the smug way he stated that he could influence Rand. Which is true if you look at some of the areas Rand has backed down on foreign policy issues.
    When did he say that, and where?
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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    It's not a serious signifier for someone firmly entrenched on the Right such as yourself, but it is a signifier for those that were of the assumption Rand Paul was some sort of maverick like his father.
    McCain is part of the Washington establishment class of the GOP. If Rand wants to appear to be conservative this is not a good endorsement

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    When did he say that, and where?
    Hmm I may have to apologize. I could've sworn that was said but I can't find anything on it by googling for it.

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Rand is a social conservative with no principles behind his supposed non-interventionism. He's an Israel shill, he is peddling the ISIS propaganda, and he wanted sanctions on Russia. He's no libertarian. He may have some libertarian leanings occasionally, but overall he is just a watered down version of the same **** we've been getting.
    He is a libertarian claiming to be a conservative GOP just like his father

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    He is a libertarian claiming to be a conservative GOP just like his father
    Nah...you can't support the war on drugs, abortion laws, traditional marriage, economic sanctions, entangling foreign alliances, closed borders, etc. and still claim to be a flesh and blood libertarian. He has some libertarian leanings, I have said I would give him that much, but I really think it's the other way around with him.

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Nah...you can't support the war on drugs, abortion laws, traditional marriage, economic sanctions, entangling foreign alliances, closed borders, etc. and still claim to be a flesh and blood libertarian. He has some libertarian leanings, I have said I would give him that much, but I really think it's the other way around with him.
    He has shown he is more libertarian than anything just like his father who actually ran for president as a libertarian candidate

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    Rand Paul represents more of a shake up than the hope and change candidate did.

    People don't go for sweeping changes in politics. We got where we are through incrementalism.

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    Re: McCain Endorses Rand Paul

    McCain has more party loyalty than I do on this. I don't think I could support Paul over Clinton if he was the nominee, his foreign policy perspective would be disastrous coming on the heels of the past eight years of this administration.

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