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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As the number of Federal laws are literally countless (and yes, I used the word "literally" correctly, research it yourself),
    Good for you! I didn't say that you didn't use it correctly, so why are you putting that in there??? (and I won't be researching it, thanks)

    it only makes sense that the President would direct the Justice department to prioritize the enforcement of certain laws over others. There's no such thing as enforcing all of them equally because the nation doesn't have anything close to the money or manpower to do so. When you have an estimated figure as high as 300,000 laws (though again keep in mind that's just a mad estimate -- nobody knows the real number), at that point it actually makes sense to say something like "You know what? This law here is ****ing stupid. I'm telling the Justice Department to pursue these other laws instead."

    So let me emphasize: if the Justice Department had sufficient manpower and enforced every Federal law on the books, everyone reading this would be guilty and in Federal prison.
    You really can't be so naive as to equate DOMA with hundreds of thousand of unknown laws, or are you? So that's your reasoning? It was just a matter of not having the money and manpower? I'm going to make the argument that DOMA and immigration laws are a little more prominent than most of the others. Oh, and the President still can't pick and choose laws to enforce. Especially laws of that much importance.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Good for you! I didn't say that you didn't use it correctly, so why are you putting that in there??? (and I won't be researching it, thanks)



    You really can't be so naive as to equate DOMA with hundreds of thousand of unknown laws, or are you? So that's your reasoning? It was just a matter of not having the money and manpower? I'm going to make the argument that DOMA and immigration laws are a little more prominent than most of the others. Oh, and the President still can't pick and choose laws to enforce. Especially laws of that much importance.
    "Especially laws of that much importance" = there are laws that are not of such importance = the president can prioritize the enforcement of certain laws over others = the President can pick and choose the laws to enforce.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is a very poor argument. A handgun is defined as an arm and all (in Texas) may keep them yet a permit is required to bear them concealed and it is illegal to open carry a handgun (in Texas) even with a CCW permit.

    BTW, if i strike you with my "bare arm" and then take your wallet that is not "armed robbery"
    A poor argument, indeed! But, a good example of what the left needs to do to push their agenda. Most of it is not compatible with the Constitution, so they have to play dumb, as if it is unclear what is meant by arms. A bit of an extreme example, and I sure hope it was of the tongue-in-cheek variety. But it represents what they need to do.

    They don't want anything in the Constitution to have a clear meaning, that way it has no meaning and they can make up whatever they want.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "Especially laws of that much importance" = there are laws that are not of such importance = the president can prioritize the enforcement of certain laws over others = the President can pick and choose the laws to enforce.
    Oh, so now your reasoning is that the President does have that power? Mine is that he does not. So, go ahead and show us all the part of the Constitution that gives him such power.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, so now your reasoning is that the President does have that power?
    It never wasn't.

    Mine is that he does not.
    You haven't shown reasoning, just an opinion. Do you believe that the President should enforce all laws equally?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It never wasn't.
    Oh, good.
    And that is where in the Constitution? You know, you do need some legal support for it, right? The Constitution defines the role of the President. Yes, it does (you can research that) LOL. What role does he have in making laws? And how much discretion does he get in enforcing laws (this might be a tricky question).
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, good.
    And that is where in the Constitution? You know, you do need some legal support for it, right? The Constitution defines the role of the President. Yes, it does (you can research that) LOL. What role does he have in making laws? And how much discretion does he get in enforcing laws (this might be a tricky question).
    You're avoiding my question: do you believe that the President should direct the Justice Department to enforce all [roughly] 300,000 Federal laws equally?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [URL="http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/10/20/7015673/president-obama-now-says-the-constitution-protects-same-sex-marriage"]President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage[/UR

    I agree 100%! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Where does the Constitution mention gay marriage? Or marriage for that matter?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Where does the Constitution mention gay marriage? Or marriage for that matter?
    Where does it mention House music?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Where does it mention House music?
    No clue . What is your point?

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