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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    >" In 1996, to help defend one-man, one-woman marriage from efforts to redefine it, the U.S. Congress overwhelmingly passed - and President Bill Clinton signed -- the "Defense of Marriage Act." It 1) defined marriage in federal law; and, 2) enabled states -- even in the face of claims made pursuant to the Full Faith and Credit Clause -- to decline to recognize same-sex marriages from other states.

    DOMA defined marriage in federal law as follows:

    In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word "marriage" means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word "spouse" refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife. 1 U.S.C. 7..."<

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    Did nobody tell the FRC that this section was overturned by SCOTUS?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Are you saying that an 18 year old is ancient ? ****ing unbelievable.

    Most 18 year olds are immature, uniformed, believe they know it all, are gullible , allow their genitalia to think for them and believe the world owes them something.

    It may explain how Obama got elected.
    That Clinton signed DOMA is of academic interest but isn't helpful to how we're settling the issue now.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is a very poor argument. A handgun is defined as an arm and all (in Texas) may keep them yet a permit is required to bear them concealed and it is illegal to open carry a handgun (in Texas) even with a CCW permit.

    BTW, if i strike you with my "bare arm" and then take your wallet that is not "armed robbery"
    No, it's not. If choosing the gender of my spouse is a "gender preference" issue and not a "gender" issue, then
    choosing the type of arms I want is an "arms preference" issue and not an "arms" issue.

    And since "arms preference" is not mentioned in the constitution, nor is "arms" defined in the constitution, it is acceptable for states or the people to define "arms" for themselves.


    Or maybe, just maybe, it is silly to argue that defining marriage as between a man and a woman is not an issue of gender.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Did nobody tell the FRC that this section was overturned by SCOTUS?
    It was predicted when liberal Presidents stack the SCOTUS with activist judges, **** like this will happen.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Or maybe, just maybe, it is silly to argue that defining marriage as between a man and a woman is not an issue of gender.

    Just the opposite--it's your suggestion that is silly. State laws that exclude same-sex partners exclude them just the same, whether the partners are both men or both women.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It was predicted when liberal Presidents stack the SCOTUS with activist judges, **** like this will happen.


    To describe the current SCOTUS as stacked by liberals... oh man. That's great. I needed a good laugh.

    "Activist judge" is just a whine by people who dislike a court decision but don't have any actual rebuttal to it. (usually because they didn't read it)
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Just the opposite--it's your suggestion that is silly. State laws that exclude same-sex partners exclude them just the same, whether the partners are both men or both women.
    And my proposed state laws would exclude arms all the same, whether a pistol or a rifle. And they'd apply to everyone equally, regardless of race or gender. Equal protection satisfied. 2nd amendment satisfied. It's just states defining "arms." Why are you against states' rights?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post


    To describe the current SCOTUS as stacked by liberals... oh man. That's great. I needed a good laugh.

    "Activist judge" is just a whine by people who dislike a court decision but don't have any actual rebuttal to it.
    It was FDR who was first advised to stack the SCOTUS with judges who would rule in his favor of unconstitutional legislation that he signed into law.

    Many future POTUS not all but many would follow suit.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan are liberal activist judges who legislate from the bench.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You have to understand that they see Obama in the much the same way the Ancient Greeks saw Zeus. Obama gave birth to the goddess of law and justice from his head.
    Don't you guys ever get sick of barfing this stupid line onto the forum?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It was FDR who was first advised to stack the SCOTUS with judges who would rule in his favor of unconstitutional legislation that he signed into law.

    Many future POTUS not all but many would follow suit.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan are liberal activist judges who legislate from the bench.
    Like I said, just a blind statement made when you have no specific rebuttal to any particular decision.

    And strangely, no criticism of Scalia, who said
    We have no power to decide this case. And even if we did, we have no power under the Constitution to invalidate this democratically adopted legislation.
    The day after he voted to strike down democratically adopted legislation. Talk about activist judge. One day they can strike down a law, and the next day they don't have the power?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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