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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    >" In 1996, to help defend one-man, one-woman marriage from efforts to redefine it, the U.S. Congress overwhelmingly passed - and President Bill Clinton signed -- the "Defense of Marriage Act." It 1) defined marriage in federal law; and, 2) enabled states -- even in the face of claims made pursuant to the Full Faith and Credit Clause -- to decline to recognize same-sex marriages from other states.

    DOMA defined marriage in federal law as follows:

    In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word "marriage" means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word "spouse" refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife. 1 U.S.C. 7..."<

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    >" In 1996, to help defend one-man, one-woman marriage from efforts to redefine it, the U.S. Congress overwhelmingly passed - and President Bill Clinton signed -- the "Defense of Marriage Act." It 1) defined marriage in federal law; and, 2) enabled states -- even in the face of claims made pursuant to the Full Faith and Credit Clause -- to decline to recognize same-sex marriages from other states.

    DOMA defined marriage in federal law as follows:

    In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word "marriage" means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word "spouse" refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife. 1 U.S.C. 7..."<

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    Thanks for the ancient history lesson.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As the number of Federal laws are literally countless (and yes, I used the word "literally" correctly, research it yourself), it only makes sense that the President would direct the Justice department to prioritize the enforcement of certain laws over others. There's no such thing as enforcing all of them equally because the nation doesn't have anything close to the money or manpower to do so. When you have an estimated figure as high as 300,000 laws (though again keep in mind that's just a mad estimate -- nobody knows the real number), at that point it actually makes sense to say something like "You know what? This law here is ****ing stupid. I'm telling the Justice Department to pursue these other laws instead."



    The Many Failed Efforts to Count Nation's Federal Criminal Laws - WSJ

    So let me emphasize: if the Justice Department had sufficient manpower and enforced every Federal law on the books, everyone reading this would be guilty and in Federal prison.
    And what should pop up but the prosecutorial discretion argument, as it invariably does whenever anyone calls President Pinocchio out for his habitual lying, lawlessness, and contempt for the Constitution? There must be a collectivist website someplace where his acolytes are fed the same arguments, which, however lame, they never could have thought up themselves.

    What this President has made a habit of doing goes very far beyond the long-established use of prosecutorial discretion. He has flagrantly and repeatedly violated the requirement of Article II, sec. 3 that the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed." He has also shamefully violated his oath that to the best of his ability, he would "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    No one knows if there will ever be a serious attempt to impeach Barack Obama, and in part that depends on whether the Republicans win a solid majority in the Senate. But if there ever is such an attempt, there will be no shortage of high crimes and misdemeanors to make up the articles of impeachment.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    And what should pop up but the prosecutorial discretion argument, as it invariably does whenever anyone calls President Pinocchio out for his habitual lying, lawlessness, and contempt for the Constitution? There must be a collectivist website someplace where his acolytes are fed the same arguments, which, however lame, they never could have thought up themselves.

    What this President has made a habit of doing goes very far beyond the long-established use of prosecutorial discretion. He has flagrantly and repeatedly violated the requirement of Article II, sec. 3 that the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed." He has also shamefully violated his oath that to the best of his ability, he would "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    No one knows if there will ever be a serious attempt to impeach Barack Obama, and in part that depends on whether the Republicans win a solid majority in the Senate. But if there ever is such an attempt, there will be no shortage of high crimes and misdemeanors to make up the articles of impeachment.
    Okay. So you want to be in Federal prison then?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Thanks for the ancient history lesson.
    Are you saying that an 18 year old is ancient ? ****ing unbelievable.

    Most 18 year olds are immature, uniformed, believe they know it all, are gullible , allow their genitalia to think for them and believe the world owes them something.

    It may explain how Obama got elected.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okay. So you want to be in Federal prison then?
    What on earth are you talking about--if you know?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    What on earth are you talking about--if you know?
    As you responded to my post, I assumed you read everything contained within it. Was I mistaken?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This may be semantics, but I believe the constitution either protects or stops government in saying who can or can't be married.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The U.S. constitution's content is not intended to be so mysterious as to require interpretation by only our nine robed umpires. It was written by and intended for use by the common citizen representatives/executives elected by other common citizens. Often, rather than clarify the broader meaning of a constitutional clause or statement, the SCOTUS goes out of its way to make sure to leave the broader issue open and make its ruling limited to a specific (side?) issue on a specific case.

    For example the constitution lists (enumerates) specific powers of the federal gov't, rights of the people and leaves all else up to the several states to decide. To call a state law permitting specific folks to be married (or carry a gun) unconstitutional because it denies "equal protection" to other folks means that only the least restrictive state law (currently in existence?) is then constitutional.

    Note that a constitutional amendment, rather than a SCOTUS "interpretation", was deemed required to give women (and then blacks) the right to vote. While gender and race are specifically mentioned in the constitution "gender preference" is not. While the 2A gives the people the right to keep and bear arms many state laws are allowed to separate (sever?) the "and bear" part into a need for CCW permits for handguns.
    The constitution mentions arms, not arms preference! Therefore a state can define "arms" however they like.

    The two appendages attached to your shoulders. You have a right to keep and bear those, nobody is infringing on that.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The constitution mentions arms, not arms preference! Therefore a state can define "arms" however they like.

    The two appendages attached to your shoulders. You have a right to keep and bear those, nobody is infringing on that.
    That is a very poor argument. A handgun is defined as an arm and all (in Texas) may keep them yet a permit is required to bear them concealed and it is illegal to open carry a handgun (in Texas) even with a CCW permit.

    BTW, if i strike you with my "bare arm" and then take your wallet that is not "armed robbery"
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