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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This discussion has been beaten to death infinity times and you know it. I'm sorry that after all those threads you still believe gay marriage isn't protected by the constitution, but it's not my problem. If you want, though, I can probably find a School House of Rock cartoon to explain the three branches of government or something.
    Nice dodge, no, it has nothing to do with my opinion of homosexual marriage and the constitution. Now it appears your misunderstanding is willful and an attempt to distract. This is about Obama's changing opinion of an unchanged document and you know it.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nice dodge, no, it has nothing to do with my opinion of homosexual marriage and the constitution. Now it appears your misunderstanding is willful and an attempt to distract. This is about Obama's changing opinion of an unchanged document and you know it.
    Did I enter this discussion because Obama changed his mind? No. I entered it because apdst was confused about the powers of the judiciary vs. the executive. Do you believe Obama has the power to rule laws constitutional or unconstitutional? Because you came to his defense before I even had a chance to edit out the spelling errors in my post, so I can only assume you share apdst's confusion.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Did I enter this discussion because Obama changed his mind? No. I entered it because apdst was confused about the powers of the judiciary vs. the executive. Do you believe Obama has the power to rule laws constitutional or unconstitutional? Because you came to his defense before I even had a chance to edit out the spelling errors in my post, so I can only assume you share apdst's confusion.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not the topic of the thread.
    Are you still confused about the powers of the judiciary vs the executive?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Did I enter this discussion because Obama changed his mind? No. I entered it because apdst was confused about the powers of the judiciary vs. the executive. Do you believe Obama has the power to rule laws constitutional or unconstitutional? Because you came to his defense before I even had a chance to edit out the spelling errors in my post, so I can only assume you share apdst's confusion.
    And still you dodge and distract. And then tell porkies. So, which point did you wish to discuss, because this goal post changing is making us all dizzy? How Obama changed his mind about what was in the constitution, or how you think it's okay for the POTUS to play at being a SCOTUS justice for the press?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The President is right only so far as being in reference to states that don't have a domestic partnership civil union statute call "homarriage" or whatever.

    States that don't, they're stuck, and activist judges have (though erroneously) forced those states to apply the marriage domestic partnership civil union to same-sex unions.

    This judicial activism, though, is simply that, and fails to do the right thing by all, including the constitution.

    The right thing by all is for these judges to force such states to create homarriage (or whatever applicable name (of course other than "marriage") same-sexers want their relationships to be called) domestic partnership civil uions and to allow same-sex couples to be licensed under that statute.

    For states that already have a homarriage statute, not The President, activist judges, or the constitution rightly compels those states to apply the inappropriate term marriage to same-sex union licensing.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Are you still confused about the powers of the judiciary vs the executive?
    I never was.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And still you dodge and distract. And then tell porkies. So, which point did you wish to discuss, because this goal post changing is making us all dizzy?
    I've always stuck to the same topic: your confusion about whether you and apdst literally believe that Obama has the power to rule laws unconstitutional. You're the one who wanted to discuss whether gay marriage is protected by the constitution, that Obama changed his mind, the weather in France, how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll, etc.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never was.
    Your original post suggests otherwise:

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    Obama is replacing SCOTUS, now?
    And if you believe you were never confused before, it stands to reason that you still must be now. If so, let me put your fears to rest by saying that no, Obama does not possess the power to rule laws constitutional or unconstitutional, and therefore he is not replacing the SCOTUS. If there's anything else just let me know, because I'm here to help.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And still you dodge and distract. And then tell porkies. So, which point did you wish to discuss, because this goal post changing is making us all dizzy? How Obama changed his mind about what was in the constitution, or how you think it's okay for the POTUS to play at being a SCOTUS justice for the press?
    Please note that Mr. Obama said "Ultimately I think" the Equal Protection Clause guarantees a right to same-sex marriage. First, he wasn't saying it does do that, but only that he thinks it does that. And second, he said he thought it ultimately does that. Before 2012, Mr. Obama probably thought the Equal Protection Clause did that only penultimately.

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