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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, if someone on this forum says same sex marriage bans are constitutional, or unconstitutional, that person has replaced SCOTUS? Any time someone expresses their opinion on a constitutional issue, they think themselves a federal judge?

    Do you think you have replaced SCOTUS? You've expressed opinions too.
    The U.S. constitution's content is not intended to be so mysterious as to require interpretation by only our nine robed umpires. It was written by and intended for use by the common citizen representatives/executives elected by other common citizens. Often, rather than clarify the broader meaning of a constitutional clause or statement, the SCOTUS goes out of its way to make sure to leave the broader issue open and make its ruling limited to a specific (side?) issue on a specific case.

    For example the constitution lists (enumerates) specific powers of the federal gov't, rights of the people and leaves all else up to the several states to decide. To call a state law permitting specific folks to be married (or carry a gun) unconstitutional because it denies "equal protection" to other folks means that only the least restrictive state law (currently in existence?) is then constitutional.

    Note that a constitutional amendment, rather than a SCOTUS "interpretation", was deemed required to give women (and then blacks) the right to vote. While gender and race are specifically mentioned in the constitution "gender preference" is not. While the 2A gives the people the right to keep and bear arms many state laws are allowed to separate (sever?) the "and bear" part into a need for CCW permits for handguns.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama is replacing SCOTUS, now?
    He didn't make a legal declaration. Obama isn't even allowed to express his opinion? What ever happened to free speech?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    He didn't make a legal declaration. Obama isn't even allowed to express his opinion? What ever happened to free speech?
    The Libbos will use Obama's comments as prove of something, because he's The Messiah.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Which makes him either the nation's worst constitutional scholar or, a politician who will say anything. The constitution hasn't changed, yet somehow his opinion of what is there has. Why would you want to celebrate this?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos will use Obama's comments as prove of something, because he's The Messiah.
    No, he's the President.
    "Being President doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are"

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama is replacing SCOTUS, now?
    When you make a claim about what the constitution does and doesn't support, are you replacing the SCOTUS?

    And before you respond with the insanely predictable "I'm not the President," the President is allowed to make commentary on what the constitution says without actually acting with the powers of the SCOTUS, just like all of us here can.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    When you make a claim about what the constitution does and doesn't support, are you replacing the SCOTUS?
    apdst isn't the leader of one of the three branches.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    When you make a claim about what the constitution does and doesn't support, are you replacing the SCOTUS?
    Am I the president? Are my comments used as official evidence of a political idea?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    apdst isn't the leader of one of the three branches.
    see edit

    Oh, and completely irrelevant.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Which makes him either the nation's worst constitutional scholar or, a politician who will say anything.
    Does the phrase, "...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, " ring any bells?

    The constitution hasn't changed, yet somehow his opinion of what is there has. Why would you want to celebrate this?
    Actually, its been revised/changed about 27 times.

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