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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    End result of this difference: zero.
    wrong, a right and a privilege are a big difference.

    privileges come from government ,and they must honor them...not people or business.....which is why a privilege requires an action from government.

    a right only requires it not be hindered when exercising it.

    which is why marriage is not a right.....because it does not require an action.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong, a right and a privilege are a big difference.

    privileges come from government ,and they must honor them...not people or business.....which is why a privilege requires an action from government.

    a right only requires it not be hindered when exercising it.

    which is why marriage is not a right.....because it does not require an action.
    I said "result," not "significance of your differentiation." In other words, your choice of terminology is irrelevant -- it has no impact on real word events.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I said "result," not "significance of your differentiation." In other words, your choice of terminology is irrelevant -- it has no impact on real word events.
    false, and rights cannot be infringed upon....meaning government cannot hinder its exercise.......a privilege is granted by the government...... and it can have strings attached to it to receive it.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    false, and rights cannot be infringed upon....meaning government cannot hinder its exercise.......a privilege is granted by the government...... and it can have strings attached to it to receive it.
    Name for me one real world result (within this topic) where what you're talking about has had an impact in the real world. Not in theory, not in semantics...the real world.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Name for me one real world result (within this topic) where what you're talking about has had an impact in the real world. Not in theory, not in semantics...the real world.
    if you have a [right]......is it illegal to infringe on it........yes it is

    but a privilege is not a right, privileges are dispensed by government, and they can come with strings attached to them, ..meaning if you wish to receive the privilege then you might have to meet the qualifications to get it.

    rights..... do not have a qualifying factor

    by calling a privilege..... a right, this confuses things....and in essence says that you can have a privilege, but exercising it like a right. at the expense/labor of another citizen, if you meet government's qualification.

    government cannot grant you a privilege, at another citiznes expense or labor.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if you have a [right]......is it illegal to infringe on it........yes it is

    but a privilege is not a right, privileges are dispensed by government, and they can come with strings attached to them, ..meaning if you wish to receive the privilege then you might have to meet the qualifications to get it.

    rights..... do not have a qualifying factor
    Do you know what "real world impact" means? Because so far the concept has been going right over your head.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Do you know what "real world impact" means? Because so far the concept has been going right over your head.
    point blank to you...........you are calling a "privilege" given to you by government "a right"............and exercising a "privilege of government"................ on other citiznes, as a "right".......over another "citizens rights".

    privileges of government cannot override a natural right.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    point blank to you...........you are calling a "privilege" given has given to you by government "a right"............and exercising a "privilege of government"................ on other citiznes, as a right.
    Tell it to a Federal judge.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Tell it to a Federal judge.

    again i ask a simple question, ...do you believe government can grant you a right........which violates my rights?

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again i ask a simple question, ...do you believe government can grant you a right........which violates my rights?
    No, and that's why votes for bans against ssm are being continually ruled unconstitutional.

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