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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I didn't, so I asked the question. Since you're both liberal you would read his comment differently than me probably.
    I'm passingly familiar with his sense of sarcasm, and feel comfortable assuming he doesn't mean that the Supreme Court literally takes its cues from polls.

    Edit: whoops, actually you and I both read his post wrong. He wasn't saying that the SCOTUS take its cues from the polls, but that Obama does, which is of course true.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And out come the ad homs when you've lost.
    I guess you are never going to back up your claim, as expected. I just wanted to see if you were going to come up with something, or just run away from it completely. Looks like it was the latter. And far, far away you ran. Nice exposition.
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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    that's impossible......there is no right to marry, .......there is a right to be with those you wish to be with......there is no such thing as a right which gives you a license, and compels anyone to preform any kind of service/ or words for the joining of two people.

    marriage is a privilege, since a license is involved.....a privilege is provide by government, and government must honor its own privileges, not Citizens or business.

    all Citiznes are to receive the same privileges, unless the state can show its in their interest not to give you a privilege.

    NOTHING CAN BE A RIGHT , THAT LAYS A COST OR BURDEN ON ANOTHER PERSON.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's impossible......there is no right to marry, .......there is a right to be with those you wish to be with......there is no such thing as a right which gives you a license, and compels anyone to preform any kind of service/ or words for the joining of two people.

    marriage is a privilege, since a license is involved.....a privilege is provide by government, and government must honor its own privileges, not Citizens or business.

    all Citiznes are to receive the same privileges, unless the state can show its in their interest not to give you a privilege.

    NOTHING CAN BE A RIGHT , THAT LAYS A COST OR BURDEN ON ANOTHER PERSON.
    Every Federal judge who's ruled on the matter disagrees.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Every Federal judge who's ruled on the matter disagrees.
    well they are wrong..period.....rights do not have licenses connected with them, privileges do...

    you obtain a license do things things which are made equal by law, in government eyes.

    do you have a right to be a hairdresser.........no.... you must obtain a incense to become one in legal standing.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well they are wrong..period....
    That's the beautiful thing about America: you're allowed to have your opinion.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's the beautiful thing about America: you're allowed to have your opinion.
    answer simple questions, if you dare

    if marriage is a right.....why does it need a license?

    if a license is need to fulfill a right of marriage, then a government bureaucrat must approve the right through a authorization of a marriage license.

    are you saying rights need government approval to be exercised?



    you are confusing marriage verses right to be together.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    answer simple questions, if you dare

    if marriage is a right.....why does it need a license?

    if a license is need to fulfill a right of marriage, then a government bureaucrat must approve the right through a authorization of a marriage license.

    are you saying rights need government approval to be exercised?
    If you genuinely want an answer I suggest you reference the roughly eight hundred other threads that cover this exact question on, oh, just about every single page of every one of those threads. It's not my duty to repeat the arguments for you here. Barring that, read the decisions by each of the Federal judges who ruled that ssm was protected by the constitution. No doubt they would explains themselves more clearly than I could, and your understanding would be better for it.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If you genuinely want an answer I suggest you reference the roughly eight hundred other threads that cover this exact question on, oh, just about every single page of every one of those threads. It's not my duty to repeat the arguments for you here. Barring that, read the decisions by each of the Federal judges who ruled that ssm was protected by the constitution. No doubt they would explains themselves more clearly than I could, and your understanding would be better for it.
    so what your saying is you cannot answer.


    Blacks law 2nd, states a marriage is a civil status

    http://www.blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/2/M/m0762.jpg

    if it is civil, its a privilege.

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    Re: President Obama now says the Constitution protects same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so what your saying is you cannot answer.


    Blacks law 2nd, states a marriage is a civil status

    http://www.blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/2/M/m0762.jpg

    if it is civil, its a privilege.
    If you're more interested in what some guy on the interwebz thinks of Constitutional matters than going directly to the people draw a paycheck from making decisions based on the Constitution, that tells me you're not really interested in the answer.

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