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101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West Afric

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You simply dont understand the terminology. For ebola to be transmitted through the air it has to be transported on an infected body fluid. This means basically when someone coughs or sneezes or spits or has diarrhea or what ever, ebola can be transmitted if it is on/in that body fluid and that body fluid comes in contact with a mucous membrane or open skin, before the infective agent dies. Ebola is not floating aroun the room waiting for some unsuspecting person to walk by and inhale it. This is Micro 101 and the right is really eberasssing itself with this stuff. Ebola is just not airborne and that is a scienctific fact. So calm down.
MMC said:
Yeah I do.....just like a couple of disease experts and some doctors do. ;)


Direct injection and exposure via a skin break or mucous membranes are the most efficient ways for Ebola to transmit. It may be that inhalation is a less efficient route of transmission for Ebola and other filoviruses, as lung involvement has not been reported in all non-human primate studies of Ebola aerosol infectivity.27 However, the respiratory and gastrointestinal systems are not complete barriers to Ebola virus. Experimental studies have demonstrated that it is possible to infect non-human primates and other mammals with filovirus aerosols.25-27.....snip~

COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP
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MMC said:
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Really....and here you can't figure out what the 101st missions are about......got anything on them building medical facilities? Or did that that one float in on one side and out the other?



Now, which of these English words did you want to tell everybody that you didn't understand and know about? Do show us all of that Intelligence you allege.
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Apparently you have reading issues along with writing issues.

I know what the mission of the 101st is, it is to follow the orders of those in command. See, that is easy.

I linkied to two sources in this very thread on what they will be doing there, you should read them. Since that seems hard, I will help you, and it could, if you read, help with what seems to be your first question: Soldiers briefed, trained for tough Ebola mission

"Our mission," said DeSantis, "in support of the USAID-led effort, is to, one, build Ebola treatment units, which are being built to identify Ebola patients, as well as care for them. Two, our mission is to train health care workers who will be the actual ones to treat Ebola patients, to staff those treatment units. That's our two missions."

For this mission, called Operation Unified Assistance (OUA), the 101st contingent is primarily headquarters personnel to coordinate all of those efforts and medical personnel to train medical workers.
The 101st Airborne is only one of several Army units deploying for the mission, which is being conducted with a lot of help and expertise.
"There's a huge synchronization piece to this," DeSantis said, "and it doesn't just include our units, but also USAID (United States Agency for International Development), CDC, a whole bunch of organizations outside the government – Doctors Without Borders, World Health Organization (WHO), all those groups that have been over there for at least a year."
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So now that you know what the 101st's mission is and what they will be doing, do you have any other stupid questions?
 
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mak2 said:
You simply dont understand the terminology. For ebola to be transmitted through the air it has to be transported on an infected body fluid. This means basically when someone coughs or sneezes or spits or has diarrhea or what ever, ebola can be transmitted if it is on/in that body fluid and that body fluid comes in contact with a mucous membrane or open skin, before the infective agent dies. Ebola is not floating aroun the room waiting for some unsuspecting person to walk by and inhale it. This is Micro 101 and the right is really eberasssing itself with this stuff. Ebola is just not airborne and that is a scienctific fact. So calm down.
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Mak.....they have two separate cases. One in Canada and then one at Jaax. Only thing they were exposed to was the air. Separated from those that were infected.

http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html



There has been a lot of on-line and published controversy about whether Ebola virus can be transmitted via aerosols. Most scientific and medical personnel, along with public health organizations, have been unequivocal in their statements that Ebola can be transmitted only by direct contact with virus-laden fluids2,3 and that the only modes of transmission we should be concerned with are those termed "droplet" and "contact."

These statements are based on two lines of reasoning. The first is that no one located at a distance from an infected individual has contracted the disease, or the converse, every person infected has had (or must have had) "direct" contact with the body fluids of an infected person.

This reflects an incorrect and outmoded understanding of infectious aerosols, which has been institutionalized in policies, language, culture, and approaches to infection control. We will address this below. Briefly, however, the important points are that virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited throughout the respiratory tract......snip~

COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP


If you can't figure out that a government has a responsibility to not let the nation to turn into panic mode like they did here in the with the War of the Worlds Radio Show.

I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Redress said:
Apparently you have reading issues along with writing issues.

I know what the mission of the 101st is, it is to follow the orders of those in command. See, that is easy.

I linkied to two sources in this very thread on what they will be doing there, you should read them. Since that seems hard, I will help you, and it could, if you read, help with what seems to be your first question: Soldiers briefed, trained for tough Ebola mission



So now that you know what the 101st's mission is and what they will be doing, do you have any other stupid questions?
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Still hiding from what words shows your confusion. Cmon now its not just for those of us here. We do have guests. So lets give them those examples to show them just how smart you are.

I already knew what they were doing and I brought up the difference with Regular Army .....that which you couldn't figure out with all that alleged intelligence you thought you had. :doh
 
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MMC said:
Changing tangent already.....seems you understood that, huh. :lol:

Cmon now Show which words helps you to play the fool!!!!!

Oh and I wasn't wrong....as I agreed with CIDRAP and the 2 Disease Specialists...Do try and keep up with all that's been said, and not make **** up like you usually do..
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CIDRAP did not claim what you think they did. They simply hosted an editorial from another source. It really helps to go to original pages instead of pages of some one trying to tell you what they think they read. Further, the 2 people who wrote the editorial are talking about something different from what you are. Here, read the actual source editorial: COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP
 
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He just doesnt understand the words and I am having a hard time explaining it.
Redress said:
CIDRAP did not claim what you think they did. They simply hosted an editorial from another source. It really helps to go to original pages instead of pages of some one trying to tell you what they think they read. Further, the 2 people who wrote the editorial are talking about something different from what you are. Here, read the actual source editorial: COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP
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MMC said:
Still hiding from what words shows your confusion. Cmon now its not just for those of us here. We do have guests. So lets give them those examples to show them just how smart you are.

I already knew what they were doing and I brought up the difference with Regular Army .....that which you couldn't figure out with all that alleged intelligence you thought you had. :doh
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They are part of the army. Nothing about them suggests that they are not capable of handling the mission. If you think(as I think might be what you are getting at, but since you are entirely unclear, I am not sure) there is some reason why some other unit should be sent instead of them, maybe you could articulate that. Until you actually state either a direct question or make an actual statement of position, it is difficult at best to decipher your mangled sentences to know what you are trying to do.
 
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Redress said:
CIDRAP did not claim what you think they did. They simply hosted an editorial from another source. It really helps to go to original pages instead of pages of some one trying to tell you what they think they read. Further, the 2 people who wrote the editorial are talking about something different from what you are. Here, read the actual source editorial: COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP
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I read the whole thing and I also read all the others. All of them. Which you can't seem to put 2 and 2 together. Then the test results show it for what it is.

But then you couldn't figure out the difference over the 101st and Regular Army Engineers and Medical Units and running a HQ.


Dr Brosseau is a Professor and Dr Jones an Assistant Professor in the School of Public Health, Division of Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences, at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1

We strongly urge the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) to seek funds for the purchase and transport of PAPRs to all healthcare workers currently fighting the battle against Ebola throughout Africa—and beyond.....snip~

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...ers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola



Now what is it they Believe.....What part did you and your kind not understand or comprehend.

Again, one more time. What is it they believe?
 
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mak2 said:
He just doesnt understand the words and I am having a hard time explaining it.
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The stupid part is those who will be in contact with ebola victims will have, surprise, respirators, and they received training on those. The source article for the thread is built on a quote out of context and is basically a flat out lie.
 
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Redress said:
They are part of the army. Nothing about them suggests that they are not capable of handling the mission. If you think(as I think might be what you are getting at, but since you are entirely unclear, I am not sure) there is some reason why some other unit should be sent instead of them, maybe you could articulate that. Until you actually state either a direct question or make an actual statement of position, it is difficult at best to decipher your mangled sentences to know what you are trying to do.
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No one said anything about them not being able to handle anything. Wrong tangent.

Oh and reading is fundamental.....I have stated others in the Army, in the thread, several times.

Again if you are having a problem with a Sentence lets post that sentence up so that can be explained to you and you can show All what you don't understand.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Wanting to be prepared and get full info, is not "freaking out".
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Heya Crue.....note they have trouble making out what these Doctors are saying they believe?

Seems some don't know what the definition of believe is.....huh?
 
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Animal experiments

Four cynomolgus macaques were acclimatized in the BSL4 animal facility for two weeks, and housed in the same room for one week prior to the swine inoculation. The macaques were housed in two levels of individual cages inside the pig pen, and separated from the piglets by wire barrier placed about 15 cm in front of the cages to prevent direct contact between the two species. Bottom cages housing NHPs Nos. 07M and 20F were about 20cm above the ground, while top cages housing NHPs Nos. 34F and 51M were about 1.4 m above the ground. The NHP were sampled at 3 and 6 dpi (nasal, oral rectal swabs, blood) as per experimental schedule. Two macaques were euthanized for humane reasons at 8 days post exposure (dpe), and all animals were sampled at that time. Two remaining NHPs were in addition sampled at 11 dpe, and at13 dpe when they were euthanized. The animals were euthanized when typical clinical signs of Ebola infection became apparent, if possible prior to reaching the humane endpoint. Lung, lung associated lymph nodes, liver, spleen and intestine were collected at the necropsy.



Air sampling

The air was sampled using BioCapture 650 Air Sampler (FLIR, Arlington, VA) on days 0, 3, 6, 8 and 11 post inoculation of the piglets. The air sampling started after husbandry, concurrent to NHP sampling, later in the morning before noon. Location in front of the bottom cages at about 75 cm above the floor was sampled in 30 min triplicates. The collection took place over a span of about two hours in total (three 30 min collection times with changes of cartridges in between). The air sampler device collects particles by bubbling the air through a pre-loaded buffer (0.74% Tris/0.1 Tween 20) provided in a sealed cartridge by the manufacturer. This solution is not optimal for recovery of live enveloped viruses, and virus isolation attempts were unsuccessful. ZEBOV RNA was detected by real time RT-PCR targeting the L gene.....snip~

Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group
 
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Yea MMC, ebola is airborne and floating your way. Geeze I give up.
MMC said:
Animal experiments

Four cynomolgus macaques were acclimatized in the BSL4 animal facility for two weeks, and housed in the same room for one week prior to the swine inoculation. The macaques were housed in two levels of individual cages inside the pig pen, and separated from the piglets by wire barrier placed about 15 cm in front of the cages to prevent direct contact between the two species. Bottom cages housing NHPs Nos. 07M and 20F were about 20cm above the ground, while top cages housing NHPs Nos. 34F and 51M were about 1.4 m above the ground. The NHP were sampled at 3 and 6 dpi (nasal, oral rectal swabs, blood) as per experimental schedule. Two macaques were euthanized for humane reasons at 8 days post exposure (dpe), and all animals were sampled at that time. Two remaining NHPs were in addition sampled at 11 dpe, and at13 dpe when they were euthanized. The animals were euthanized when typical clinical signs of Ebola infection became apparent, if possible prior to reaching the humane endpoint. Lung, lung associated lymph nodes, liver, spleen and intestine were collected at the necropsy.



Air sampling

The air was sampled using BioCapture 650 Air Sampler (FLIR, Arlington, VA) on days 0, 3, 6, 8 and 11 post inoculation of the piglets. The air sampling started after husbandry, concurrent to NHP sampling, later in the morning before noon. Location in front of the bottom cages at about 75 cm above the floor was sampled in 30 min triplicates. The collection took place over a span of about two hours in total (three 30 min collection times with changes of cartridges in between). The air sampler device collects particles by bubbling the air through a pre-loaded buffer (0.74% Tris/0.1 Tween 20) provided in a sealed cartridge by the manufacturer. This solution is not optimal for recovery of live enveloped viruses, and virus isolation attempts were unsuccessful. ZEBOV RNA was detected by real time RT-PCR targeting the L gene.....snip~

Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group
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mak2 said:
Yea MMC, ebola is airborne and floating your way. Geeze I give up.
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I wouldn't be concerned if there is none around me who has been infected. But I tell you what.....I am willing to allow any of you to go into a separate room with nothing but an air vent attached to a room of infected humans with the ebola.....in another room not more than 6 feet away. Then lets see if it can be transmitted by air. Which of the left wants to be the first?




Pathology of Experimental Aerosol Zaire Ebolavirus Infection in Rhesus Macaques......

1US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, MD, USA
2Integrated Research Facility Frederick, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Fort Detrick, Frederick, MD, USA

How the virus is spread among humans during outbreaks is largely unknown; however, close contact and iatrogenic spread have been documented.6,8,20,66,82 In NHP, there is 1 report of transmission among research animals by way of infectious droplets and aerosolized particles.51 Aerosol exposure as a means of human infection has never been documented. EBOV, along with several other highly pathogenic agents, has the potential to be used in biowarfare as aerosolized weapons and are therefore classified as biological select agents and toxins (BSATs).1,11,28,32,45,69 These factors, coupled with a lack of licensed human vaccine or approved medical countermeasures, amplify the risks of EBOV to human health.

In summary, the pathogenesis we propose for aerosol EBOV infection in rhesus, based on the results of the current study, is as follows:

We predict this sequence of events would be the same in human aerosol infection.....snip~

http://vet.sagepub.com/content/50/3/514.full
 
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As simple as I can make this. Aerosol/droplet is not the same thing as airborne.
MMC said:
I wouldn't be concerned if there is none around me who has been infected. But I tell you what.....I am willing to allow any of you to go into a separate room with nothing but an air vent attached to a room of infected humans with the ebola.....in another room not more than 6 feet away. Then lets see if it can be transmitted by air.




Pathology of Experimental Aerosol Zaire Ebolavirus Infection in Rhesus Macaques......

1US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, MD, USA
2Integrated Research Facility Frederick, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Fort Detrick, Frederick, MD, USA

How the virus is spread among humans during outbreaks is largely unknown; however, close contact and iatrogenic spread have been documented.6,8,20,66,82 In NHP, there is 1 report of transmission among research animals by way of infectious droplets and aerosolized particles.51 Aerosol exposure as a means of human infection has never been documented. EBOV, along with several other highly pathogenic agents, has the potential to be used in biowarfare as aerosolized weapons and are therefore classified as biological select agents and toxins (BSATs).1,11,28,32,45,69 These factors, coupled with a lack of licensed human vaccine or approved medical countermeasures, amplify the risks of EBOV to human health.

In summary, the pathogenesis we propose for aerosol EBOV infection in rhesus, based on the results of the current study, is as follows:

We predict this sequence of events would be the same in human aerosol infection.....snip~

http://vet.sagepub.com/content/50/3/514.full
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mak2 said:
As simple as I can make this. Aerosol/droplet is not the same thing as airborne.
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According to the Center for Aerobiological Sciences, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland:

(1) Ebola has an aerosol stability that is comparable to Influenza-A

(2) Much like Flu, Airborne Ebola transmissions need Winter type conditions to maximize Aerosol infection

Filoviruses, which are classified as Category A Bioterrorism Agents by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (Atlanta, GA), have stability in aerosol form comparable to other lipid containing viruses such as influenza A virus, a low infectious dose by the aerosol route (less than 10 PFU) in NHPs, and case fatality rates as high as ~90% ."

"The mode of acquisition of viral infection in index cases is usually unknown. Secondary transmission of filovirus infection is typically thought to occur by direct contact with infected persons or infected blood or tissues. There is no strong evidence of secondary transmission by the aerosol route in African filovirus outbreaks. However, aerosol transmission is thought to be possible and may occur in conditions of lower temperature and humidity which may not have been factors in outbreaks in warmer climates [13]. At the very least, the potential exists for aerosol transmission, given that virus is detected in bodily secretions, the pulmonary alveolar interstitial cells, and within lung spaces".....snip~
 
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Analysis:

Its clear that when Ebola is in the air it is at least as hardy as Influenza. Its also clear that coughing and sneezing is what makes Influenza airborne; the same should be expected of Ebola.

Moreover, just as sun, heat, and humidity along the Earths' Equatorial regions serve to 'burn' Influenza out of the air, the same should be expected of Ebola. The difference with Ebola is that physical contact with even the tiniest amounts of infected bodily fluid can cause infection, hence unlike flu it also readily spreads in equatorial regions. When Ebola spreads to the regions of the Earth which experience Fall and Winter Flu seasons, airborne Ebola infectious routes are to be expected in conjunction with direct contact infection.

Ebola has the capability to infect pretty much every cell in the entire human respiratory tract. Similarly, our skin offers little resistance to even the smallest amounts of Ebola. How much airborne transmission will occur will be a function of how well Ebola induces coughing and sneezing in its victims in cold weather climates. Coughing and nasal bleeding are both reported symptoms in Africa.....snip~
 
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This is as simple as I can make it. I should have dropped this back when I said I would.

FAQ: Methods of Disease Transmission
What is transmission by direct contact?
Direct contact transmission requires physical contact between an infected person and a susceptible person, and the physical transfer of microorganisms. Direct contact includes touching an infected individual, kissing, sexual contact, contact with oral secretions, or contact with body lesions. This type of transmission requires close contact with an infected individual, and will usually occur between members of the same household or close friends and family.

Diseases spread exclusively by direct contact are unable to survive for significant periods of time away from a host. Sexually transmitted diseases are almost always spread through direct contact, as they are extremely sensitive to drying.

» What is transmission by indirect contact?
Indirect contact transmission refers to situations where a susceptible person is infected from contact with a contaminated surface. Some organisms (such as Norwalk Virus) are capable of surviving on surfaces for an extended period of time. To reduce transmission by indirect contact, frequent touch surfaces should be properly disinfected.

Frequent touch surfaces (fomites) include:

Door knobs, door handles, handrails
Tables, beds, chairs
Washroom surfaces
Cups, dishes, cutlery, trays
Medical instruments
Computer keyboards, mice, electronic devices with buttons
Pens, pencils, phones, office supplies
Children's toys
» What is transmission by droplet contact?
Some diseases can be transferred by infected droplets contacting surfaces of the eye, nose, or mouth. This is referred to as droplet contact transmission. Droplets containing microorganisms can be generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks. Droplets can also be generated during certain medical procedures, such as bronchoscopy. Droplets are too large to be airborne for long periods of time, and quickly settle out of air.

Droplet transmission can be reduced with the use of personal protective barriers, such as face masks and goggles. Measles and SARS are examples of diseases capable of droplet contact transmission.

» What is airborne transmission?
Airborne transmission refers to situations where droplet nuclei (residue from evaporated droplets) or dust particles containing microorganisms can remain suspended in air for long periods of time. These organisms must be capable of surviving for long periods of time outside the body and must be resistant to drying. Airborne transmission allows organisms to enter the upper and lower respiratory tracts. Fortunately, only a limited number of diseases are capable of airborne transmission.

Diseases capable of airborne transmission include:

Tuberculosis
Chickenpox
Measles
 
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That book chronicles the 1989 outbreak of Ebola Reston, which was transmitted among monkeys by breathing. In 2012, Canadian researchers found that Ebola Zaire, which is involved in the current outbreak, was passed from pigs to monkeys in the air.

Dr. James Le Duc, the director of the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas, said the problem is that no one is keeping track of the mutations happening across West Africa, so no one really knows what the virus has become.

One group of researchers looked at how Ebola changed over a short period of time in just one area in Sierra Leone early on in the outbreak, before it was spreading as fast as it is now. They found more than 300 genetic changes in the virus. "It's frightening to look at how much this virus mutated within just three weeks," said Dr. Pardis Sabeti, an associate professor at Harvard and senior associate member of the Broad Institute, where the research was done. Even without becoming airborne, the virus has overwhelmed efforts to stop it.....snip~

Ebola airborne: A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com
 
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Please note the word COULD in your link. It hasnt.
MMC said:
That book chronicles the 1989 outbreak of Ebola Reston, which was transmitted among monkeys by breathing. In 2012, Canadian researchers found that Ebola Zaire, which is involved in the current outbreak, was passed from pigs to monkeys in the air.

Dr. James Le Duc, the director of the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas, said the problem is that no one is keeping track of the mutations happening across West Africa, so no one really knows what the virus has become.

One group of researchers looked at how Ebola changed over a short period of time in just one area in Sierra Leone early on in the outbreak, before it was spreading as fast as it is now. They found more than 300 genetic changes in the virus. "It's frightening to look at how much this virus mutated within just three weeks," said Dr. Pardis Sabeti, an associate professor at Harvard and senior associate member of the Broad Institute, where the research was done. Even without becoming airborne, the virus has overwhelmed efforts to stop it.....snip~

Ebola airborne: A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com
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mak2 said:
Please note the word COULD in your link. It hasnt.
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When they do it with primates and think it can be done with humans.....that is a perspective that hasn't changed.

(1) Ebola has an aerosol stability that is comparable to Influenza-A

(2) Much like Flu, Airborne Ebola transmissions need Winter type conditions to maximize Aerosol infection....snip~



Oh, and note what the researchers are saying about Mutations with the disease. Just within a 3 week timespan.
 
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Panicky nonsense. Aerosol is droplet by another name. It's NOT airborne! It's coughed or sneezed, but it falls out of the air onto surfaces. Airborne infections are smaller and lighter than droplets, and can dift on eddies and draughts much farther than droplets which tend to remain in the immediate area of the patient. Don't panic.
 
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I have tried to explain that 25 different ways.
Manc Skipper said:
Panicky nonsense. Aerosol is droplet by another name. It's NOT airborne! It's coughed or sneezed, but it falls out of the air onto surfaces. Airborne infections are smaller and lighter than droplets, and can dift on eddies and draughts much farther than droplets which tend to remain in the immediate area of the patient. Don't panic.
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mak2 said:
Please note the word COULD in your link. It hasnt.
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According to the Center for Aerobiological Sciences, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland:


Got anything to say about these guys Mak. Post 243 was their Analysis. Any reason you skipped over them?
 
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