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101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West Afric

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I am 100% certain they won't be providing direct healthcare services to Ebola patients. So, no need for specialty equipment to guard against a very long shot risk.

What information do you have that makes you 100% certain that they will never be exposed to ebola victims?
 
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What information do you have that makes you 100% certain that they will never be exposed to ebola victims?

For the same reason I'm confident construction workers in Dallas aren't in any danger from Ebola.

Ebola victims are contagious when they have symptoms. Symptoms are overt. Why a person building a hospital would be exposed to a symptomatic Ebola victim.... I mean, you understand that patients don't go to hospitals while they're being built, right?
 
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Ahh, now we're getting somewhere. Since we can't be sure that those will never be required to cone in contact with ebola victims, it would be a hood idea to issue PPE in case they are. Yes?

Good thing they are being trained on the suits, and the procedures in case they need to use them. And the suits will be there. What happened is you got sucked by a quote out of context from a source that has a long history of lying. Let's look at the whole quote, which is not much longer, but kinda puts a different spin on things. Source: TRANSCRIPT: Pentagon Briefing on DoD Response to Ebola with GEN Rodriguez | United States Africa Command

Q: And the personal protective gear?
GEN. RODRIGUEZ: The personal protective gear, the majority of the people will just deploy with personal protective gear that includes gloves and masks and things like that. They don't need the whole suit, as such, because they're not going to be in contact with any of the people.

Notice how much of a difference that is from just "They don’t need the whole suit – as such – because they’re not going to be in contact with any of the people". Most of them will not need the whole suit, those who might because they are handling potentially infected people will have them. You got suckered.

What if the disease goes airborne? Then what? Life's a bitch like that?

The odds are astronomical. Fact or Fiction?: The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne - Scientific American

ut interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically. “We have so many problems with Ebola, let’s not make another one that, of course, is theoretically possible but is pretty way down on the list of likely issues," says infectious diseases expert William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University. "Everything that is happening now can easily be comprehensively explained by person-to-person spread via body contact. We don’t have to invoke anything else.”

Here is what it would take for it to become a real airborne risk: First off, a substantial amount of Ebola virus would need to start replicating in cells that reside in the throat, the bronchial tubes and possibly in the lungs. Second, the airborne method would have to be so much more efficient than the current extremely efficient means of transmission that it would overcome any genetic costs to the virus stemming from the mutation itself. Substantial natural hurdles make it unlikely that either event will occur.
 
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I'm happy with your line of reason on all of the ebola threads.
He's asking for 100% certainty when a Democrat is President on everything.
Need we bring up all the tragedies, lies and ****ups in the last five GOP Presidencies when he didn't feel this way ?

For the same reason I'm confident construction workers in Dallas aren't in any danger from Ebola.

Ebola victims are contagious when they have symptoms. Symptoms are overt. Why a person building a hospital would be exposed to a symptomatic Ebola victim.... I mean, you understand that patients don't go to hospitals while they're being built, right?
 
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Yeah not like any people can come across them huh, Skipper?

if only they had security
 
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It is truly unbelievable how silly the drones are about gobbling up anything Obama spews forth. Although, this is probably as much a function of their hatred for the military, as it is about their hive collective mindset.

the **** are you on about?
 
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Who cares what they will and won't be doing. They should be given proper equipment just in case!

Another Administration FAIL!

what there doing determines what's proper
 
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Then maybe they should load up on arctic gear, and deep sea gear too.

well they do have to cross an ocean so that only makes sense
 
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The won't be in the front line, so they don't need the suits.

Which naturally begs the question: What are they doing there "combating Ebola" if they're not on the front lines I.e. "combating Ebola?"
 
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Which naturally begs the question: What are they doing there "combating Ebola" if they're not on the front lines I.e. "combating Ebola?"

Primarily as I understand it building ETUs(Ebola Treatment Units), plus some command and control and logistics type stuff. I linked to a transcript of General Rodriguez doing a briefing on the topic(where the out of context quote from the OP source came from) and he talks a bit about that.
 
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Primarily as I understand it building ETUs(Ebola Treatment Units), plus some command and control and logistics type stuff. I linked to a transcript of General Rodriguez doing a briefing on the topic(where the out of context quote from the OP source came from) and he talks a bit about that.

What a working party that they're on. Apparently, this group didn't learn not to heed the call from superiors for "volunteers" ;)
 
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What a working party that they're on. Apparently, this group didn't learn not to heed the call from superiors for "volunteers" ;)

Probably has alot more to do with the fact they returned from their last deployment over 3 years ago.
 
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Probably has alot more to do with the fact they returned from their last deployment over 3 years ago.

I know, I was joking around.
 
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Call me a skeptic, but I find it a bit hard to believe that these US troops would have no contact whatsoever with the indigenous Liberian population.
 
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Simpleχity;1063886536 said:
Call me a skeptic, but I find it a bit hard to believe that these US troops would have no contact whatsoever with the indigenous Liberian population.
Nobody said they're not making contact with any Liberians, they're not making contact with any Ebola patients. Most Liberians aren't Ebola patients, indeed there are plenty of areas of Liberia which haven't been affected at all.

Suggesting these troops need Hazmat suits just because they're going to Liberia is like saying people need Hazmat suits if they're going to a Dallas Hospital.
 
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You do realize they have to exchange body fluids to catch it right? It aint blowin in the wind.
Simpleχity;1063886536 said:
Call me a skeptic, but I find it a bit hard to believe that these US troops would have no contact whatsoever with the indigenous Liberian population.
 
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Perhaps I can't parse empty rhetoric. Your loss.

No not mine.....yours and if you thought that had some sort of a point, like any of that other BS you brought.

You didn't!
 
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They don't need context, it's above their pay grade, they get their lack of information from talk radio.

I noticed how you couldn't even figure out the basic difference between a Combat Unit and Army Engineers. So really you shouldn't be talking to much about any others and about reading.
 
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And if they where performing a mission in a hospital, they would use full protective suits wouldn't they? See how easy that is, all you have to do is not have a kneejerk outraged reaction and think.

Really....and here you can't figure out what the 101st missions are about......got anything on them building medical facilities? Or did that that one float in on one side and out the other?

You weren't actually trying to play in here now.....were you? Show us all that naught and naught you do. were ya? :roll:
 
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Ahh, now we're getting somewhere. Since we can't be sure that those will never be required to cone in contact with ebola victims, it would be a hood idea to issue PPE in case they are. Yes?

What if the disease goes airborne? Then what? Life's a bitch like that?

Yes, what if the disease goes airborne? Or what if it starts getting transmitted by thoughts, or through watching a cursed videotape? All three are equally as likely.
 
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:Oopsie


Ebola Believed To Be Potentially Airborne, Researchers Claim.....


Editor’s note: this story has been amended to reflect that the primary source was submitted to and published by the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy; the research and findings reflected did not originate with CIDRAP and should not be attributed to CIDRAP.

Ebola may have the potential to be airborne, according to a September commentary submitted to the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota. The authors believe “scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients.” The scientists behind the report warn that surgical facemasks will not prevent the transmission of Ebola. According to the report, medical workers must immediately be given full-hooded protective gear and powered air-purifying respirators......snip~

Read more at Ebola Believed To Be Potentially Airborne, Researchers Claim
 
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if only they had security

Heya Blarg. :2wave: According to the WHO there are 50 medical teams on the ground at the source and the disease continues to spread. None really have any security.
 
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Nobody said they're not making contact with any Liberians, they're not making contact with any Ebola patients. Most Liberians aren't Ebola patients, indeed there are plenty of areas of Liberia which haven't been affected at all.

Suggesting these troops need Hazmat suits just because they're going to Liberia is like saying people need Hazmat suits if they're going to a Dallas Hospital.




July.....

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August.....

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Liberia infected ebola regions maps - Bing Images


October.....

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Liberia infected ebola regions maps october 2014 - Bing Images
 
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Yes, what if the disease goes airborne? Or what if it starts getting transmitted by thoughts, or through watching a cursed videotape? All three are equally as likely.

So much for you video tape BS huh or transmsitted by thoughts. "What happened" with the all knowing left BS that tries very hard in not researching **** out. :lol:

Do yous talk.....just to hear sounds coming out from your mouths? :lamo


The report goes on to note that any action which can be taken to “reduce risk” of Ebola exposure should not wait until a “scientific certainty” develops. “The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run,” the report also adds.

The working theory about Ebola transmission from the CDC and the agency’s director Thomas Frieden, is incorrect and “outmoded” according to the report.“Virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited throughout the respiratory tract,” University researchers concluded.

Read more at Ebola Believed To Be Potentially Airborne, Researchers Claim
 
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The "reseracher" doesnt even use the correct termnology, but it appears that was intentional.

Airborne vs. Droplet Precautions - pg.2 | allnurses


Droplet --- requires close contact (typically within 3 feet or less) between the source client and a susceptible person.
Use of a standard surgical mask within 3 feet of the client is required.

Respiratory droplets are generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks, or during procedures such as suctioning, endotracheal intubation, cough induction by chest physiotherapy and cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Airborne --- microorganisms dispersed over long distances that remain infective over time and distance.
Infectious agents remain active in the air over a long period of time and are dispersed over long distances by air currents, which are inhaled by susceptible individuals.

Preventing the spread of airborne pathogens requires the use of special air handling and ventilation systems wearing respiratory protection with NIOSH-certified N95 or higher level respirator for all health care workers.
 
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