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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What lie?
    This one. It is even the thread title:


    101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West Afric
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This one. It is even the thread title:
    Are claiming that the 101st Airborne soldiers are being issued hazmat suits?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    The people who need them will be issued them.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are claiming that the 101st Airborne soldiers are being issued hazmat suits?
    Issued to individual soldiers, no. Issued to the unit and available to use as needed, yes, as I have documented in this very thread, including a picture of them training on the suits(that you claimed was not the 101st, except it specifically stated it was).
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    well it aint like they are Marine Corps or somehting.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Issued to individual soldiers, no. Issued to the unit and available to use as needed, yes, as I have documented in this very thread, including a picture of them training on the suits(that you claimed was not the 101st, except it specifically stated it was).
    No, you didn't prove that. Nice try at lieing your way through, though.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, you didn't prove that. Nice try at lieing your way through, though.
    Actually I did. I showed the General's full quote, which was significantly different in meaning than claimed, I showed the soldiers training with the gear. Shall we take a look, yet again?


    First, let's docvument the lie in your OP. Here is the quote in your OP:

    troops from the 101st Airborne Division leading the military response to Ebola in West Africa will only need gloves and masks to protect themselves from the deadly virus, so said Gen. David Rodriguez at a Pentagon briefing Wednesday.
    Now let's look at his actual words:

    Q: And the personal protective gear?
    GEN. RODRIGUEZ: The personal protective gear, the majority of the people will just deploy with personal protective gear that includes gloves and masks and things like that. They don't need the whole suit, as such, because they're not going to be in contact with any of the people.
    Notice the "majority of". That is alot different from all. If you are building a ETU, you don't need more than gloves. If however, you are going to be dealing with patients or tissue samples:
    Also note:
    And last, we have sufficient personal protective equipment for ourselves, and we will continue to make sure that that's the way throughout the process.
    And:

    GEN. RODRIGUEZ: The lab -- the labs are a separate specialty element of the force. So that's -- that's probably where that has come. As far as the general population, they won't be coming in contact. These are -- like I said, these labs are trained to a specialty skill -- level four, it's called -- but the bottom line, it's the highest level. I mean, they can operate in a nuclear, biological and chemical environment. They are specifically trained to do that, and that's their primary skill set, OK?
    And we had one in there that has been operating for several years in the country that works on infectious diseases. We have the -- both the Navy and the Army have medical labs in many countries doing just that, to monitor these things. OK?
    So anyway, yeah, most of them will not need full suits, but some will, and they have enough, and are highly trained and experienced in working in NBC contaminated environments.

    And then there is this: Soldiers briefed, trained for tough Ebola mission

    Following the briefing, there was extensive training on how to wear the protective gear – protective masks, boots, gloves (two pairs minimum and three pairs recommended) and Tyvex suits.
    Every soldier was required to don the gear and go through the decontamination process, aided by West Virginia Army National Guard full-time personnel of the 35th CST (Civil Support Team) and CERFP (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, High-Explosive Emergency Response Force Package) personnel.
    The equipment displayed on Thursday will likely be part of the package that goes with the 101st, although a much simpler decontamination set-up can also be made using standard cleaning supplies like bleach and other items the Liberians will find easier to procure.
    So not just do they have enough, every one is getting trained in their use.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again, this in no way has anything to do with anything I have commented on in this thread. Let's see if we can find some common ground. Would you agree, based on the evidence provided in the thread including the full quote from general Rodriguez, that the OP is a lie? Would you agree that based on the evidence provided in this thread that the 101st is not just taking hazmat suits, but being trained in their usage, decontamination procedures, and everything else relevant to staying alive and healthy in the environment? If not, what are you basing your disagreement on?
    However the brigade eventually is equipped your questions are not relevant until we understand the vital national interest we are protecting on behalf of the American nation and people. This is the crucial question. Who will answer? Why did The One on the golf course send precious American military troops to Ebola country?

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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually I did. I showed the General's full quote, which was significantly different in meaning than claimed, I showed the soldiers training with the gear. Shall we take a look, yet again?


    First, let's docvument the lie in your OP. Here is the quote in your OP:



    Now let's look at his actual words:



    Notice the "majority of". That is alot different from all. If you are building a ETU, you don't need more than gloves. If however, you are going to be dealing with patients or tissue samples:
    Also note:


    And:



    So anyway, yeah, most of them will not need full suits, but some will, and they have enough, and are highly trained and experienced in working in NBC contaminated environments.

    And then there is this: Soldiers briefed, trained for tough Ebola mission



    So not just do they have enough, every one is getting trained in their use.
    How many times are you going to lie? Or, rather, how many ways are you going lie? No where does anything you posted prove that the 101st soldiers have PPE at the individual, crew, or unit level. You claimed that one-oh-one personel have PPE available at the unit level; you failed to support that, much less prove it...that means you lied.

    The 35th CST isn't the 101st Airborne...another lie. In case you didn't notice, the the thread topic is about the 101st Airborne. Those are two different units. Do you understand the difference?

    You did an awesome job at lieing!
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The people who need them will be issued them.
    How do you know?
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