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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    He just doesnt understand the words and I am having a hard time explaining it.
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    CIDRAP did not claim what you think they did. They simply hosted an editorial from another source. It really helps to go to original pages instead of pages of some one trying to tell you what they think they read. Further, the 2 people who wrote the editorial are talking about something different from what you are. Here, read the actual source editorial: COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

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    Still hiding from what words shows your confusion. Cmon now its not just for those of us here. We do have guests. So lets give them those examples to show them just how smart you are.

    I already knew what they were doing and I brought up the difference with Regular Army .....that which you couldn't figure out with all that alleged intelligence you thought you had.
    They are part of the army. Nothing about them suggests that they are not capable of handling the mission. If you think(as I think might be what you are getting at, but since you are entirely unclear, I am not sure) there is some reason why some other unit should be sent instead of them, maybe you could articulate that. Until you actually state either a direct question or make an actual statement of position, it is difficult at best to decipher your mangled sentences to know what you are trying to do.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    CIDRAP did not claim what you think they did. They simply hosted an editorial from another source. It really helps to go to original pages instead of pages of some one trying to tell you what they think they read. Further, the 2 people who wrote the editorial are talking about something different from what you are. Here, read the actual source editorial: COMMENTARY: Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for Ebola | CIDRAP

    I read the whole thing and I also read all the others. All of them. Which you can't seem to put 2 and 2 together. Then the test results show it for what it is.

    But then you couldn't figure out the difference over the 101st and Regular Army Engineers and Medical Units and running a HQ.


    Dr Brosseau is a Professor and Dr Jones an Assistant Professor in the School of Public Health, Division of Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences, at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

    We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1

    We strongly urge the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) to seek funds for the purchase and transport of PAPRs to all healthcare workers currently fighting the battle against Ebola throughout Africa—and beyond.....snip~

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...otection-ebola



    Now what is it they Believe.....What part did you and your kind not understand or comprehend.

    Again, one more time. What is it they believe?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    He just doesnt understand the words and I am having a hard time explaining it.
    The stupid part is those who will be in contact with ebola victims will have, surprise, respirators, and they received training on those. The source article for the thread is built on a quote out of context and is basically a flat out lie.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They are part of the army. Nothing about them suggests that they are not capable of handling the mission. If you think(as I think might be what you are getting at, but since you are entirely unclear, I am not sure) there is some reason why some other unit should be sent instead of them, maybe you could articulate that. Until you actually state either a direct question or make an actual statement of position, it is difficult at best to decipher your mangled sentences to know what you are trying to do.
    No one said anything about them not being able to handle anything. Wrong tangent.

    Oh and reading is fundamental.....I have stated others in the Army, in the thread, several times.

    Again if you are having a problem with a Sentence lets post that sentence up so that can be explained to you and you can show All what you don't understand.

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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Wanting to be prepared and get full info, is not "freaking out".
    Heya Crue.....note they have trouble making out what these Doctors are saying they believe?

    Seems some don't know what the definition of believe is.....huh?

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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Animal experiments

    Four cynomolgus macaques were acclimatized in the BSL4 animal facility for two weeks, and housed in the same room for one week prior to the swine inoculation. The macaques were housed in two levels of individual cages inside the pig pen, and separated from the piglets by wire barrier placed about 15 cm in front of the cages to prevent direct contact between the two species. Bottom cages housing NHPs Nos. 07M and 20F were about 20cm above the ground, while top cages housing NHPs Nos. 34F and 51M were about 1.4 m above the ground. The NHP were sampled at 3 and 6 dpi (nasal, oral rectal swabs, blood) as per experimental schedule. Two macaques were euthanized for humane reasons at 8 days post exposure (dpe), and all animals were sampled at that time. Two remaining NHPs were in addition sampled at 11 dpe, and at13 dpe when they were euthanized. The animals were euthanized when typical clinical signs of Ebola infection became apparent, if possible prior to reaching the humane endpoint. Lung, lung associated lymph nodes, liver, spleen and intestine were collected at the necropsy.



    Air sampling

    The air was sampled using BioCapture 650 Air Sampler (FLIR, Arlington, VA) on days 0, 3, 6, 8 and 11 post inoculation of the piglets. The air sampling started after husbandry, concurrent to NHP sampling, later in the morning before noon. Location in front of the bottom cages at about 75 cm above the floor was sampled in 30 min triplicates. The collection took place over a span of about two hours in total (three 30 min collection times with changes of cartridges in between). The air sampler device collects particles by bubbling the air through a pre-loaded buffer (0.74% Tris/0.1 Tween 20) provided in a sealed cartridge by the manufacturer. This solution is not optimal for recovery of live enveloped viruses, and virus isolation attempts were unsuccessful. ZEBOV RNA was detected by real time RT-PCR targeting the L gene.....snip~

    Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group

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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Yea MMC, ebola is airborne and floating your way. Geeze I give up.
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    Animal experiments

    Four cynomolgus macaques were acclimatized in the BSL4 animal facility for two weeks, and housed in the same room for one week prior to the swine inoculation. The macaques were housed in two levels of individual cages inside the pig pen, and separated from the piglets by wire barrier placed about 15 cm in front of the cages to prevent direct contact between the two species. Bottom cages housing NHPs Nos. 07M and 20F were about 20cm above the ground, while top cages housing NHPs Nos. 34F and 51M were about 1.4 m above the ground. The NHP were sampled at 3 and 6 dpi (nasal, oral rectal swabs, blood) as per experimental schedule. Two macaques were euthanized for humane reasons at 8 days post exposure (dpe), and all animals were sampled at that time. Two remaining NHPs were in addition sampled at 11 dpe, and at13 dpe when they were euthanized. The animals were euthanized when typical clinical signs of Ebola infection became apparent, if possible prior to reaching the humane endpoint. Lung, lung associated lymph nodes, liver, spleen and intestine were collected at the necropsy.



    Air sampling

    The air was sampled using BioCapture 650 Air Sampler (FLIR, Arlington, VA) on days 0, 3, 6, 8 and 11 post inoculation of the piglets. The air sampling started after husbandry, concurrent to NHP sampling, later in the morning before noon. Location in front of the bottom cages at about 75 cm above the floor was sampled in 30 min triplicates. The collection took place over a span of about two hours in total (three 30 min collection times with changes of cartridges in between). The air sampler device collects particles by bubbling the air through a pre-loaded buffer (0.74% Tris/0.1 Tween 20) provided in a sealed cartridge by the manufacturer. This solution is not optimal for recovery of live enveloped viruses, and virus isolation attempts were unsuccessful. ZEBOV RNA was detected by real time RT-PCR targeting the L gene.....snip~

    Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yea MMC, ebola is airborne and floating your way. Geeze I give up.

    I wouldn't be concerned if there is none around me who has been infected. But I tell you what.....I am willing to allow any of you to go into a separate room with nothing but an air vent attached to a room of infected humans with the ebola.....in another room not more than 6 feet away. Then lets see if it can be transmitted by air. Which of the left wants to be the first?




    Pathology of Experimental Aerosol Zaire Ebolavirus Infection in Rhesus Macaques......

    1US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, MD, USA
    2Integrated Research Facility Frederick, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Fort Detrick, Frederick, MD, USA

    How the virus is spread among humans during outbreaks is largely unknown; however, close contact and iatrogenic spread have been documented.6,8,20,66,82 In NHP, there is 1 report of transmission among research animals by way of infectious droplets and aerosolized particles.51 Aerosol exposure as a means of human infection has never been documented. EBOV, along with several other highly pathogenic agents, has the potential to be used in biowarfare as aerosolized weapons and are therefore classified as biological select agents and toxins (BSATs).1,11,28,32,45,69 These factors, coupled with a lack of licensed human vaccine or approved medical countermeasures, amplify the risks of EBOV to human health.

    In summary, the pathogenesis we propose for aerosol EBOV infection in rhesus, based on the results of the current study, is as follows:

    We predict this sequence of events would be the same in human aerosol infection.....snip~

    http://vet.sagepub.com/content/50/3/514.full

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