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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is an Army unit, not a Navy unit. They don't make ports of call.

    Are you 100% certain that these troops will never be exposed to ebola during their mission?
    Your ignorance precludes your understanding. They don't need them since their duties should not bring them into contact with infected peoples' body fluids. The only two things 100% certain are that we'll all die of something, and your comment will be inanely partisan..
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    No one is 100% sure of anything. When would builders of hospitals actually wear these suits? Certainly not while doing the actual building. Then they would be in camp, I'm guessing not to bed. I guess its possible they could come upon someone with the disease but they probably wouldn't be wearing them in that case anyway. The suits should be issued to those that will come in contact with infected individuals. Maybe a couple of suits for this kind of unit in case they need to work with or help an infected individual. (Not sure this is likely but anything is possible)
    Ahh, now we're getting somewhere. Since we can't be sure that those will never be required to cone in contact with ebola victims, it would be a hood idea to issue PPE in case they are. Yes?

    What if the disease goes airborne? Then what? Life's a bitch like that?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

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    So, who's idea was it really that we should send them in unprepared?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Your ignorance precludes your understanding. They don't need them since their duties should not bring them into contact with infected peoples' body fluids. The only two things 100% certain are that we'll all die of something, and your comment will be inanely partisan..
    So, you're 100% sure they won't come in contact with ebola victims? Where in the great wide world of sports do you get that knowledge from?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What if the disease goes airborne?
    If it goes airborne than we're just ****ed because there's virtually no way you can contain an airborne virus.

    But since a virus transmission has never been observed as having changed... NEVER... then this wild speculative nonsense is pointless.

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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    I am 100% certain they won't be providing direct healthcare services to Ebola patients. So, no need for specialty equipment to guard against a very long shot risk.
    What information do you have that makes you 100% certain that they will never be exposed to ebola victims?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What information do you have that makes you 100% certain that they will never be exposed to ebola victims?
    For the same reason I'm confident construction workers in Dallas aren't in any danger from Ebola.

    Ebola victims are contagious when they have symptoms. Symptoms are overt. Why a person building a hospital would be exposed to a symptomatic Ebola victim.... I mean, you understand that patients don't go to hospitals while they're being built, right?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ahh, now we're getting somewhere. Since we can't be sure that those will never be required to cone in contact with ebola victims, it would be a hood idea to issue PPE in case they are. Yes?
    Good thing they are being trained on the suits, and the procedures in case they need to use them. And the suits will be there. What happened is you got sucked by a quote out of context from a source that has a long history of lying. Let's look at the whole quote, which is not much longer, but kinda puts a different spin on things. Source: TRANSCRIPT: Pentagon Briefing on DoD Response to Ebola with GEN Rodriguez | United States Africa Command

    Q: And the personal protective gear?
    GEN. RODRIGUEZ: The personal protective gear, the majority of the people will just deploy with personal protective gear that includes gloves and masks and things like that. They don't need the whole suit, as such, because they're not going to be in contact with any of the people.
    Notice how much of a difference that is from just "They don’t need the whole suit – as such – because they’re not going to be in contact with any of the people". Most of them will not need the whole suit, those who might because they are handling potentially infected people will have them. You got suckered.

    What if the disease goes airborne? Then what? Life's a bitch like that?
    The odds are astronomical. Fact or Fiction?: The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne - Scientific American

    ut interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically. “We have so many problems with Ebola, let’s not make another one that, of course, is theoretically possible but is pretty way down on the list of likely issues," says infectious diseases expert William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University. "Everything that is happening now can easily be comprehensively explained by person-to-person spread via body contact. We don’t have to invoke anything else.”

    Here is what it would take for it to become a real airborne risk: First off, a substantial amount of Ebola virus would need to start replicating in cells that reside in the throat, the bronchial tubes and possibly in the lungs. Second, the airborne method would have to be so much more efficient than the current extremely efficient means of transmission that it would overcome any genetic costs to the virus stemming from the mutation itself. Substantial natural hurdles make it unlikely that either event will occur.
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    I'm happy with your line of reason on all of the ebola threads.
    He's asking for 100% certainty when a Democrat is President on everything.
    Need we bring up all the tragedies, lies and ****ups in the last five GOP Presidencies when he didn't feel this way ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    For the same reason I'm confident construction workers in Dallas aren't in any danger from Ebola.

    Ebola victims are contagious when they have symptoms. Symptoms are overt. Why a person building a hospital would be exposed to a symptomatic Ebola victim.... I mean, you understand that patients don't go to hospitals while they're being built, right?
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    Re: 101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West A

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah not like any people can come across them huh, Skipper?
    if only they had security

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