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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Funny how the success rate for conversion therapy is much better than AA but somehow conversion therapy is "abuse"
    How else would you describe putting someone in jail for not participating in your religious program?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    That's brilliant. Just hand over $2M to tweaker. Great decision.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That's brilliant. Just hand over $2M to tweaker. Great decision.
    It's better than the decision to put someone in jail for not sharing your religion.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    That's BS. AA teaches you that you are powerless to your addiction and that you need the help of others (God). Instead they should teach you that you are in control of your own destiny, that you have complete control over your own actions and that in order to overcome your addictions you need to embrace your strengths.

    AA is such a joke and so is the whole idea that you are powerless.
    Absolutely! Because addicts have such a strong track record of self control.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's better than the decision to put someone in jail for not sharing your religion.
    Yeah. Maybe he'll go buy himself enough product to do himself in and save everyone the hassle of having to deal with him.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How else would you describe putting someone in jail for not participating in your religious program?
    That isnt what happened, the inmate was given the choice of getting out early if they participated in a religious program. If they didnt want to participate thats fine they can serve their full sentence. However that isnt even what my comment was talking about. I was talking about how a state can sanction AA with such a low success rate and yet they can ban conversion therapy and call it abuse when it has a higher success rate.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It's compelled speech, that's the issue. It's a violation of the first amendment.
    No one is compelled to seek parole, the prisoner sought parole knowing that a religious program was the requirement.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    That isnt what happened, the inmate was given the choice of getting out early if they participated in a religious program. If they didnt want to participate thats fine they can serve their full sentence. However that isnt even what my comment was talking about. I was talking about how a state can sanction AA with such a low success rate and yet they can ban conversion therapy and call it abuse when it has a higher success rate.
    Conversion therapy isn't successful. It's abuse. Abuse isn't therapy, so it's not successful therapy.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    No one is compelled to seek parole, the prisoner sought parole knowing that a religious program was the requirement.
    Because only religious people should be given the opportunity for early parole and substance abuse treatment?
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Atheist inmate settles for $1.95 million over 12-step drug rehab

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    No one is compelled to seek parole, the prisoner sought parole knowing that a religious program was the requirement.
    And you think that's justification? You think the state gets to mandate religion because it's "voluntary?" (and by "voluntary," you mean "do this or we keep you in prison longer")

    You would flip your **** so badly if the program were Islamic and you know it.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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