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State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming.....

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Nah......More like BO knows he can't take any more chances.....Which is why our Embassies were being hardened. More up on security. What do you think happens to BO and the Demos should we get hit on their watch again?

Same thing that happened to Bush and the GOPer's when we got hit on his watch!
 
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Same thing that happened to Bush and the GOPer's when we got hit on his watch!

Well, how many more mistakes can BO be given before it gets treated differently?
 
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Well, how many more mistakes can BO be given before it gets treated differently?

Before what gets treated differently? And you're worried about his mistakes. I'm worried about the things that he and his predecessor did intentionally, that has stirred a Muslim jihadi hornets nest and created power vacuums for which they might flourish. But then I'm not a partisan, I'll call either or both parties out for ****ing up my life.
 
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I think we should make it very clear to ISIS that Mexican drug cartels are very anti Islamic.
 
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Before what gets treated differently? And you're worried about his mistakes. I'm worried about the things that he and his predecessor did intentionally, that has stirred a Muslim jihadi hornets nest and created power vacuums for which they might flourish. But then I'm not a partisan, I'll call either or both parties out for ****ing up my life.

Well....see that problem has been going on long before we got into the mix. So truthfully it goes back long before Bush Junior. But that doesn't mean any currently there in on the Party and playing it political on the world stage and ****ing up badly in all regions of the planet.....gets any pass. Nor can his **** ups in all regions at the same time be applied to Bush junior.

What you got for that Monte. Seems Bush junior wasn't ****ing up everywhere at the same time. Can't same the same for BO peep and his party now, can you? What happened with that?

Also, how many Allies would you say Bo has given the shaft to as opposed to your Fall back position of Blame Bush junior.
 
Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

Well....see that problem has been going on long before we got into the mix. So truthfully it goes back long before Bush Junior. But that doesn't mean any currently there in on the Party and playing it political on the world stage and ****ing up badly in all regions of the planet.....gets any pass. Nor can his **** ups in all regions at the same time be applied to Bush junior.

What you got for that Monte. Seems Bush junior wasn't ****ing up everywhere at the same time. Can't same the same for BO peep and his party now, can you? What happened with that?

Also, how many Allies would you say Bo has given the shaft to as opposed to your Fall back position of Blame Bush junior.

How many times, and in how many different ways, can I articulate to you that I'm a huge critic of Obama, before you understand that I'm a huge critic of Obama???? Obama has taken what Bush did to damage the Middle East and increased the damage exponentially!! The thing that keeps crinkling your pants on this is that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Carter all preceded Obama with bad policies too! But it's because of partisan support that we never change directions from our failed policies in the Middle East. As a matter of policy, unconditional support for Israel, support for militant Islamic groups, ongoing predator drone program, regime change, arms smuggling to militant groups, training for militant groups, aid for militant groups, and more, all need to change. But as long as we keep putting republicans and democrats in the White House, this is what well get. What will ensure the status quo is for partisans on the left to continue to cover their president and for the partisans on the right to cover for their president.
 
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How many times, and in how many different ways, can I articulate to you that I'm a huge critic of Obama, before you understand that I'm a huge critic of Obama???? Obama has taken what Bush did to damage the Middle East and increased the damage exponentially!! The thing that keeps crinkling your pants on this is that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Carter all preceded Obama with bad policies too! But it's because of partisan support that we never change directions from our failed policies in the Middle East. As a matter of policy, unconditional support for Israel, support for militant Islamic groups, ongoing predator drone program, regime change, arms smuggling to militant groups, training for militant groups, aid for militant groups, and more, all need to change. But as long as we keep putting republicans and democrats in the White House, this is what well get. What will ensure the status quo is for partisans on the left to continue to cover their president and for the partisans on the right to cover for their president.

What! You don't understand that the most important thing to do is to keep score? How many idiotic moves have happened under a Democrat CIC vs how many under a Republican CIC? Why, the final score is almost as important as the score in the SuperBowl. Partisanship! It's so much more important than national security, peace, prosperity, anything else! My party right or wrong!

I'm sure you understand the above, but for the sarcasmically challenged:
(Yes, in case you're wondering, that was indeed sarcasm.)
 
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How many times, and in how many different ways, can I articulate to you that I'm a huge critic of Obama, before you understand that I'm a huge critic of Obama???? Obama has taken what Bush did to damage the Middle East and increased the damage exponentially!! The thing that keeps crinkling your pants on this is that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Carter all preceded Obama with bad policies too! But it's because of partisan support that we never change directions from our failed policies in the Middle East. As a matter of policy, unconditional support for Israel, support for militant Islamic groups, ongoing predator drone program, regime change, arms smuggling to militant groups, training for militant groups, aid for militant groups, and more, all need to change. But as long as we keep putting republicans and democrats in the White House, this is what well get. What will ensure the status quo is for partisans on the left to continue to cover their president and for the partisans on the right to cover for their president.



For some reason you seem to think that the problems that comes with the ME wouldn't exist if we were taken out of the picture. Which is farther from the true reality that has played throughout history.

Its not some picture of black and white, or remove those two parties and the problem goes all away. Its clear that it wouldn't.

Correction over Israel.....it isn't unconditional support. Israel has obligations to us. Just as we do with allies.
 
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For some reason you seem to think that the problems that comes with the ME wouldn't exist if we were taken out of the picture. Which is farther from the true reality that has played throughout history.

Its not some picture of black and white, or remove those two parties and the problem goes all away. Its clear that it wouldn't.

Correction over Israel.....it isn't unconditional support. Israel has obligations to us. Just as we do with allies.

No, I do not think that. Another issue that you're stubbornly requiring me to repeat myself on! The problems in the Middle East predate the existence of the United States. Only morons would think that the United States created them! Now, to what I have actually said, multiple times to you. As the current super power, the United States has exercised the will and means to interfere with middle eastern internal issues for years, succeeding in nothing but a contribution in the fighting and chaos. Nothing is better in the Middle East post Carter thru Obama policies there! The partisan IS the problem.
 
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No, I do not think that. Another issue that you're stubbornly requiring me to repeat myself on! The problems in the Middle East predate the existence of the United States. Only morons would think that the United States created them! Now, to what I have actually said, multiple times to you. As the current super power, the United States has exercised the will and means to interfere with middle eastern internal issues for years, succeeding in nothing but a contribution in the fighting and chaos. Nothing is better in the Middle East post Carter thru Obama policies there! The partisan IS the problem.

Which at times we had to do.....all due to Russian Geo-politics. There is no getting around that fact. Which that's not to say that our people haven't been played with and used. Just one party seems to get used and played upon more than another. Now why do you think that is? Who doesn't have real business sense? Who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a Country? Who has never known how?
 
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Which at times we had to do.....all due to Russian Geo-politics. There is no getting around that fact. Which that's not to say that our people haven't been played with and used. Just one party seems to get used and played upon more than another. Now why do you think that is? Who doesn't have real business sense? Who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a Country? Who has never known how?

Just one party? Which one is that, the Whigs?
 
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Which at times we had to do.....all due to Russian Geo-politics. There is no getting around that fact. Which that's not to say that our people haven't been played with and used. Just one party seems to get used and played upon more than another. Now why do you think that is? Who doesn't have real business sense? Who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a Country? Who has never known how?

I'll remember Obama as the candidate that promised change we can believe in and delivered unsatisfactory results. I'll remember Bush as the guy who picked the fight with the Muslim world and broke our economy. You, are a right wing partisan and can only see left wing failures, I can't blame you for your glasses. :)
 
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Heya CPW. :2wave: Do you think that could be the problem. Here is a piece by the Financial Times and the question I have is......why in the World would they listen to anything an Iraqi has to say about ISIS or AQ?

Why would they give these people any play whatsoever. When have they ever been Right about anything? This is hilarious.....something Right out of Comedy Central. Iraqi Experts on Radical Islamic Movements.. There is no bigger joke than this on the planet. Arabs as experts on Islamic Radical Movements. Now that's some really funny ****. Yet its put out in the MS media feed.

The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World....

As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey’s border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world.

“I think Britain, Germany and France will witness significant attacks in their territories by the Islamic State. Al-Baghdadi [the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, otherwise known as ISIS] may reconcile with al-Zawhiri [the leader of the al-Qaeda central organization] to fight the crusader enemy. The attacks by the United States and her allies will unite the two groups,” said Hisham al-Hashimi, an Iraqi researcher who just finished writing a book about ISIS based on his unique access to the organization’s documents and years of research and advising Iraqi security forces......snip~

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html

Hey brother, :)

ANF and ISIL may choose to pause their own fighting in order to both fight us better, but I do not see Baghdadi falling back under Zawahiri. Claiming the Caliphate is a huge thing, theologically, organizationally.
 
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I'll remember Obama as the candidate that promised change we can believe in and delivered unsatisfactory results. I'll remember Bush as the guy who picked the fight with the Muslim world and broke our economy. You, are a right wing partisan and can only see left wing failures, I can't blame you for your glasses. :)


BO wasn't the first to promise change we can believe in and I was never about the Neo Cons. Not With Junior nor his dad. Which with the Neo libs and both being about the same thing overseas. Puts that into its proper perspective with those parties.

Still ideology does play its part with those parties.....and one just isn't Right.
 
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Same thing that happened to Bush and the GOPer's when we got hit on his watch!
Do you really believe plans for 9/11 began with George Bush or are you just saying that? There is a conspiracy theory section here.
 
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Before what gets treated differently? And you're worried about his mistakes. I'm worried about the things that he and his predecessor did intentionally, that has stirred a Muslim jihadi hornets nest and created power vacuums for which they might flourish. But then I'm not a partisan, I'll call either or both parties out for ****ing up my life.
Sure, you call out any political party, providing they're American.
 
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I'll remember Obama as the candidate that promised change we can believe in and delivered unsatisfactory results. I'll remember Bush as the guy who picked the fight with the Muslim world and broke our economy. You, are a right wing partisan and can only see left wing failures, I can't blame you for your glasses. :)
George Bush picked a fight with the Muslim world?
 
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Bull moose definitely
 
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Before what gets treated differently? And you're worried about his mistakes. I'm worried about the things that he and his predecessor did intentionally, that has stirred a Muslim jihadi hornets nest and created power vacuums for which they might flourish. But then I'm not a partisan, I'll call either or both parties out for ****ing up my life.

That stirred a Muslim Jihad hornets nest. I assume it started way before 9-11, like maybe during the Clinton years.

Then you talk about a vacuum, that is exactly what Obama left in Iraq and in Libya and will leave in Afghanistan. Syria crossed Obama's red line and Putin tells Obama what to do and how high to jump. So now the whole world knows Obama is a do nothing president and now vacuums are popping up everywhere and the bad guys are filling in. But hey I'm not a partisan.
 
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Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

That stirred a Muslim Jihad hornets nest. I assume it started way before 9-11, like maybe during the Clinton years.

Then you talk about a vacuum, that is exactly what Obama left in Iraq and in Libya and will leave in Afghanistan. Syria crossed Obama's red line and Putin tells Obama what to do and how high to jump. So now the whole world knows Obama is a do nothing president and now vacuums are popping up everywhere and the bad guys are filling in. But hey I'm not a partisan.

Of course, we have to go back to at least the Clinton years, or before... let's see.. before Clinton was Bush I, no couldn't have been then. Before that was Reagan, yet another Republican, so it couldn't have been then. Before that there was a Democrat in the WH, so bad things could have happened then.

But, I'm not a partisan.
 
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It's not a question of if, but when. Whether it's ISIS or some other offshoot group... we have to remain ever vigilant.
 
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