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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well....see that problem has been going on long before we got into the mix. So truthfully it goes back long before Bush Junior. But that doesn't mean any currently there in on the Party and playing it political on the world stage and ****ing up badly in all regions of the planet.....gets any pass. Nor can his **** ups in all regions at the same time be applied to Bush junior.

    What you got for that Monte. Seems Bush junior wasn't ****ing up everywhere at the same time. Can't same the same for BO peep and his party now, can you? What happened with that?

    Also, how many Allies would you say Bo has given the shaft to as opposed to your Fall back position of Blame Bush junior.
    How many times, and in how many different ways, can I articulate to you that I'm a huge critic of Obama, before you understand that I'm a huge critic of Obama???? Obama has taken what Bush did to damage the Middle East and increased the damage exponentially!! The thing that keeps crinkling your pants on this is that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Carter all preceded Obama with bad policies too! But it's because of partisan support that we never change directions from our failed policies in the Middle East. As a matter of policy, unconditional support for Israel, support for militant Islamic groups, ongoing predator drone program, regime change, arms smuggling to militant groups, training for militant groups, aid for militant groups, and more, all need to change. But as long as we keep putting republicans and democrats in the White House, this is what well get. What will ensure the status quo is for partisans on the left to continue to cover their president and for the partisans on the right to cover for their president.
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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

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    Do you actually read the posts you are supposedly responding to once in a while? This time, you didn't.
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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many times, and in how many different ways, can I articulate to you that I'm a huge critic of Obama, before you understand that I'm a huge critic of Obama???? Obama has taken what Bush did to damage the Middle East and increased the damage exponentially!! The thing that keeps crinkling your pants on this is that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Carter all preceded Obama with bad policies too! But it's because of partisan support that we never change directions from our failed policies in the Middle East. As a matter of policy, unconditional support for Israel, support for militant Islamic groups, ongoing predator drone program, regime change, arms smuggling to militant groups, training for militant groups, aid for militant groups, and more, all need to change. But as long as we keep putting republicans and democrats in the White House, this is what well get. What will ensure the status quo is for partisans on the left to continue to cover their president and for the partisans on the right to cover for their president.
    What! You don't understand that the most important thing to do is to keep score? How many idiotic moves have happened under a Democrat CIC vs how many under a Republican CIC? Why, the final score is almost as important as the score in the SuperBowl. Partisanship! It's so much more important than national security, peace, prosperity, anything else! My party right or wrong!

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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many times, and in how many different ways, can I articulate to you that I'm a huge critic of Obama, before you understand that I'm a huge critic of Obama???? Obama has taken what Bush did to damage the Middle East and increased the damage exponentially!! The thing that keeps crinkling your pants on this is that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Carter all preceded Obama with bad policies too! But it's because of partisan support that we never change directions from our failed policies in the Middle East. As a matter of policy, unconditional support for Israel, support for militant Islamic groups, ongoing predator drone program, regime change, arms smuggling to militant groups, training for militant groups, aid for militant groups, and more, all need to change. But as long as we keep putting republicans and democrats in the White House, this is what well get. What will ensure the status quo is for partisans on the left to continue to cover their president and for the partisans on the right to cover for their president.


    For some reason you seem to think that the problems that comes with the ME wouldn't exist if we were taken out of the picture. Which is farther from the true reality that has played throughout history.

    Its not some picture of black and white, or remove those two parties and the problem goes all away. Its clear that it wouldn't.

    Correction over Israel.....it isn't unconditional support. Israel has obligations to us. Just as we do with allies.

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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    For some reason you seem to think that the problems that comes with the ME wouldn't exist if we were taken out of the picture. Which is farther from the true reality that has played throughout history.

    Its not some picture of black and white, or remove those two parties and the problem goes all away. Its clear that it wouldn't.

    Correction over Israel.....it isn't unconditional support. Israel has obligations to us. Just as we do with allies.
    No, I do not think that. Another issue that you're stubbornly requiring me to repeat myself on! The problems in the Middle East predate the existence of the United States. Only morons would think that the United States created them! Now, to what I have actually said, multiple times to you. As the current super power, the United States has exercised the will and means to interfere with middle eastern internal issues for years, succeeding in nothing but a contribution in the fighting and chaos. Nothing is better in the Middle East post Carter thru Obama policies there! The partisan IS the problem.
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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, I do not think that. Another issue that you're stubbornly requiring me to repeat myself on! The problems in the Middle East predate the existence of the United States. Only morons would think that the United States created them! Now, to what I have actually said, multiple times to you. As the current super power, the United States has exercised the will and means to interfere with middle eastern internal issues for years, succeeding in nothing but a contribution in the fighting and chaos. Nothing is better in the Middle East post Carter thru Obama policies there! The partisan IS the problem.
    Which at times we had to do.....all due to Russian Geo-politics. There is no getting around that fact. Which that's not to say that our people haven't been played with and used. Just one party seems to get used and played upon more than another. Now why do you think that is? Who doesn't have real business sense? Who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a Country? Who has never known how?

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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which at times we had to do.....all due to Russian Geo-politics. There is no getting around that fact. Which that's not to say that our people haven't been played with and used. Just one party seems to get used and played upon more than another. Now why do you think that is? Who doesn't have real business sense? Who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a Country? Who has never known how?
    Just one party? Which one is that, the Whigs?
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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which at times we had to do.....all due to Russian Geo-politics. There is no getting around that fact. Which that's not to say that our people haven't been played with and used. Just one party seems to get used and played upon more than another. Now why do you think that is? Who doesn't have real business sense? Who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a Country? Who has never known how?
    I'll remember Obama as the candidate that promised change we can believe in and delivered unsatisfactory results. I'll remember Bush as the guy who picked the fight with the Muslim world and broke our economy. You, are a right wing partisan and can only see left wing failures, I can't blame you for your glasses.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

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    Heya CPW. Do you think that could be the problem. Here is a piece by the Financial Times and the question I have is......why in the World would they listen to anything an Iraqi has to say about ISIS or AQ?

    Why would they give these people any play whatsoever. When have they ever been Right about anything? This is hilarious.....something Right out of Comedy Central. Iraqi Experts on Radical Islamic Movements.. There is no bigger joke than this on the planet. Arabs as experts on Islamic Radical Movements. Now that's some really funny ****. Yet its put out in the MS media feed.

    The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World....

    As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey’s border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world.

    “I think Britain, Germany and France will witness significant attacks in their territories by the Islamic State. Al-Baghdadi [the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, otherwise known as ISIS] may reconcile with al-Zawhiri [the leader of the al-Qaeda central organization] to fight the crusader enemy. The attacks by the United States and her allies will unite the two groups,” said Hisham al-Hashimi, an Iraqi researcher who just finished writing a book about ISIS based on his unique access to the organization’s documents and years of research and advising Iraqi security forces......snip~

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger...104500024.html
    Hey brother,

    ANF and ISIL may choose to pause their own fighting in order to both fight us better, but I do not see Baghdadi falling back under Zawahiri. Claiming the Caliphate is a huge thing, theologically, organizationally.

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    Re: State Department warns: ISIS attacks outside of the Middle East may be coming....

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    Just one party? Which one is that, the Whigs?
    I am quite sure you can figure it out.

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