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NYPD Cops Investigated For Allegedly Pistol-Whipping Unarmed Teen (VIDEO)

sangha said:
And if the police didn't break the law, they wouldn't be investigated
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So, how many innocent people did those two cops kick the crap out of that day?
 
Jetboogieman said:
That is debatable based on the video, he was cornered and it would appear he gave up, but we'll have to wait and see.

I'm not the one rushing to conclusions, you are the one making the blanket statement that he may have committed a crime so that made it A-OK for what the officers did.



I don't want to get too much into it, as it's not the topic but an illustration of what you believe criminals deserve regardless of the circumstances, but we went for many pages on this and you clearly condoned it happening, CLEARLY, so don't try and fib your way out of it now, it's waaaaaaaaaay too late for that ****.
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IOW, I've never condoned prison rape...right?
 
prometeus said:
You are right things don't happen by accident and these types of thigs only happen because of stupidity, the very kind that excuses abuse because of the general premise of a broken law.
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The stupidity is a 16 y/o boy slinging dope, running from the cops, then bitching because he got smacked around.
 
Ikari said:
And, as we know, breaking any law excuses any amount of force by the police. Brilliant!
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Have you ever gotten roughed up by a cop?
 
apdst said:
IOW, I've never condoned prison rape...right?
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You never spoke out against it.

Right here you said:

Is rape supposed to be a part of the equation? Maybe, maybe not. Am I going to lose sleep over a convicted child molester getting ass raped in prison? Definitely not.

If prison is a cakewalk, then it defeats the whole purpose of putting someone in prison, because no, locking up someone where they could actually enjoy themselves kills the deterrent factor that prison is supposed to have.

If this dude doesn't like being ass raped, then he should try harder to stay out of prison.
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Punishment isn't necessarily meant to be, "civilized".
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As was said in that thread, I understand why you would not mind that particular gentleman being raped... but you flat out refused to speak out against prison rape in general because you think it's appropriate for prison.

Go on, just try and deny it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You never spoke out against it.

Right here you said:





As was said in that thread, I understand why you would not mind that particular gentleman being raped... but you flat out refused to speak out against prison rape in general because you think it's appropriate for prison.

Go on, just try and deny it.
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Why am I not surprised that you didn't post a link?
 
apdst said:
So, how many innocent people did those two cops kick the crap out of that day?
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It's not their job to kick the crap out of anyone. They're supposed to make arrests and apply force in defense of self and others. That's it.
Kicking the crap out of someone just because they ran - if that's what happened - should subject the cops to both criminal and civil sanctions.
 
Gaius46 said:
It's not their job to kick the crap out of anyone. They're supposed to make arrests and apply force in defense of self and others. That's it.
Kicking the crap out of someone just because they ran - if that's what happened - should subject the cops to both criminal and civil sanctions.
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Well, sometimes it is
 
apdst said:
The stupidity is a 16 y/o boy slinging dope, running from the cops, then bitching because he got smacked around.
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No the stupidity is the abuse and condoning it while misrepresenting the facts.
 
prometeus said:
Maybe you should remove your bias glasses and see what is really happening.
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Actually, think my assessment of the scene was pretty unbiased. Initially, the kid stepped towards the officer after the chase. Just about all law enforcement use of force training would constitute that as act of aggression, especially after a chase.

Said the other two officers were in the wrong, so not sure "what is really happening" but my assessment is pretty unbiased.
 
apdst said:
To subdue a suspect. Thanks for agreeing with me.
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Fair enough though if he's resisting you can probably also call it a self defense situation. Semantic quibble.

In any case the force applied is supposed to be the minimum needed to deal with situation.
 
Gaius46 said:
Fair enough though if he's resisting you can probably also call it a self defense situation. Semantic quibble.

In any case the force applied is supposed to be the minimum needed to deal with situation.
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Resisting the police isn't self defense.
 
prometeus said:
No the stupidity is the abuse and condoning it while misrepresenting the facts.
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But, bteaking the law is ok? You're condoning teenagers engaging in felonious activity?
 
apdst said:
Resisting the police isn't self defense.
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Didn't say it was. We were talking about the police applying force. Applying force to arrest someone who's resisting could be viewed as self defense in some cases. It's a really minor point of semantic BS and I'm probably being a dick for even mentioning it.
 
apdst said:
But, bteaking the law is ok? You're condoning teenagers engaging in felonious activity?
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What's the felony? Possession in NY isn't even a misdemeanor. It's a violation. No worse than a parking ticket.
 
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