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NFL flagged KC Chiefs safety Husain Abdullah for praying in the end zone[W:80]

CRUE CAB said:
Yea, right. Sure you do Mr Lombardi. Oh, and Warner took crap for his religion too. Just people were not as quick to tear someone down like now. We are a much more divided and crass nation than when Warner played.
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Yes, in 5 years we've come a completely anti-Christian dystopia. :roll:
 
Allow all end zone silliness. Problem solved. The current position of "bee boo buh buh goo goo special exemption for weleejan" is BS.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Took Denver to the play offs. Yea, sucked.
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That Denver team backed into the playoffs at 8-8, after losing its last three regular season games (including getting utterly demolished by my Bills, who were awful that year). They won two more games in overtime, one when Matt Prater hit a 50+ yard field goal to tie it and another to win it after Marion Barber fumbled for the Bears and Tebow drove the Broncos 20 whole yards (in about 10 plays, thanks to penalties).

The first thing the Broncos did after that season was go find a real quarterback, and they've been aces ever since. Tebow's Broncos lucked out a playoff win against a gimped-out Steelers team, then got their dicks kicked in by New England.

The Broncos made the playoffs that year despite Tebow, not because of him.
 
Kobie said:
That Denver team backed into the playoffs at 8-8, after losing its last three regular season games (including getting utterly demolished by my Bills, who were awful that year). They won two more games in overtime, one when Matt Prater hit a 50+ yard field goal to tie it and another to win it after Marion Barber fumbled for the Bears and Tebow drove the Broncos 20 whole yards (in about 10 plays, thanks to penalties).

The first thing the Broncos did after that season was go find a real quarterback, and they've been aces ever since. Tebow's Broncos lucked out a playoff win against a gimped-out Steelers team, then got their dicks kicked in by New England.

The Broncos made the playoffs that year despite Tebow, not because of him.
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I quit reading at "my Bills". Are you part of the Mara family? Or better yet what position did you play?
 
CRUE CAB said:
Took Denver to the play offs. Yea, sucked.
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Sorry but being from Colorado AND a Broncos fan, Tebow did NOT take Denver to the playoffs by himself and the year they did go to the playoffs, they were lucky to do so with their record. The Broncos kicking out Tebow for Manning was a very good decision, risky, but it has paid off in spades compared to Tebow.
 
TheNextEra said:
Sorry but being from Colorado AND a Broncos fan, Tebow did NOT take Denver to the playoffs by himself and the year they did go to the playoffs, they were lucky to do so with their record. The Broncos kicking out Tebow for Manning was a very good decision, risky, but it has paid off in spades compared to Tebow.
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Manning was awesome in the Superbowl last year.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Manning was awesome in the Superbowl last year.
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Got further than Tebow AND with a better record. Sorry but as I said before, no comparison. Dropping Tebow for Manning was the right call.
 
TheNextEra said:
Got further than Tebow AND with a better record. Sorry but as I said before, no comparison. Dropping Tebow for Manning was the right call.
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Well good job to you and the others. An idiot makes a stupid end zone political statement. And now its all about Tebow.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Well good job to you and the others. An idiot makes a stupid end zone political statement. And now its all about Tebow.
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Well Good job, there have been more posts from YOU about Tebow than me. I made two posts, how many did you make about Tebow? Got a problem? Look in the mirror.
 
Look, this isn't that difficult to understand and it's not some giant bit of religious persecution.

Abdullah's method of beginning to pray was significantly unlike what most Ref's have seen in terms of a player kneeling to do a quick prayer after a TD and looked more like a common celebration of someone going to the ground.

I can think of the two examples of this with my own team. I believe DeAngelo Hall has a TD celebratoin (that I find obnoxious) where he'll slide onto his knees and raise his hands up. I seem to recall this being flagged at least once before with the notion he was "going to the ground to celebrate".

Meanwhile, Robert Griffin will regularly kneel and cross himself real quick after throwing a TD pass and that's never been flagged.

In Abdullah's case, I'm guessing that the Ref's didn't realize at first it was a religious demonstration and probalby simply forgot that it's a technical exemption to the rule. The kneeling thing has been allowed for so long, and is so common, I'm sure it's possible a ref just forgot WHY that's allowed and simply had gotten used to not calling it as a penalty.

Abdullah shouldn't have been flagged, but I don't think this is some grevious issue. A ref made a mistake. This happens in every game in the NFL every single week. This time it just happens to correspond to a player praying. It doesn't make it any worse than any other blown call as I don't think there's any evidence or notion that it was due to some kind of "favoritism" to one religion or some other such thing.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well Good job, there have been more posts from YOU about Tebow than me. I made two posts, how many did you make about Tebow? Got a problem? Look in the mirror.
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I only stressed that Tebow is no where near as bad as people say. So you look in the mirror. People hate Tebow for his outward religious actions.
Being a Christian as he is, was attacked at Florida and was pushed even further in the NFL. But in true hypocritical fashion, praying to Mecca in the end zone is not only OK but seen as a wonderful thing. Welcome to muslim America. Or thug America and if you say different, you get called racist or some brand of "phobe".
Clearly the NFL is appealing to the lowest common denominator.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Took Denver to the play offs. Yea, sucked.
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And Trent Dilfer has a Superbowl ring. Call the Hall of Fame....

I think it's a little closer to the truth to say the Broncos took Tebow to the playoffs.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I only stressed that Tebow is no where near as bad as people say. So you look in the mirror. People hate Tebow for his outward religious actions.
Being a Christian as he is, was attacked at Florida and was pushed even further in the NFL. But in true hypocritical fashion, praying to Mecca in the end zone is not only OK but seen as a wonderful thing. Welcome to muslim America. Or thug America and if you say different, you get called racist or some brand of "phobe".
Clearly the NFL is appealing to the lowest common denominator.
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No, he sucked plain and simple. Not because he was a Christian. Now, take your OWN advice and stop talking about Tebow. You have mentioned him more than me. I love how YOU complain about my two posts being about Tebow and you have posted MORE than myself about him. Talk about hypocritical.
 
rocket88 said:
And Trent Dilfer has a Superbowl ring. Call the Hall of Fame....

I think it's a little closer to the truth to say the Broncos took Tebow to the playoffs.
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Clearly you don't watch football or understand the game. But like I said, great job of deflecting from a obvious "in your face" prayer move. To more character assassination of Tim Tebow.
 
Zyphlin said:
Look, this isn't that difficult to understand and it's not some giant bit of religious persecution.

Abdullah's method of beginning to pray was significantly unlike what most Ref's have seen in terms of a player kneeling to do a quick prayer after a TD and looked more like a common celebration of someone going to the ground.

I can think of the two examples of this with my own team. I believe DeAngelo Hall has a TD celebratoin (that I find obnoxious) where he'll slide onto his knees and raise his hands up. I seem to recall this being flagged at least once before with the notion he was "going to the ground to celebrate".

Meanwhile, Robert Griffin will regularly kneel and cross himself real quick after throwing a TD pass and that's never been flagged.

In Abdullah's case, I'm guessing that the Ref's didn't realize at first it was a religious demonstration and probalby simply forgot that it's a technical exemption to the rule. The kneeling thing has been allowed for so long, and is so common, I'm sure it's possible a ref just forgot WHY that's allowed and simply had gotten used to not calling it as a penalty.

Abdullah shouldn't have been flagged, but I don't think this is some grevious issue. A ref made a mistake. This happens in every game in the NFL every single week. This time it just happens to correspond to a player praying. It doesn't make it any worse than any other blown call as I don't think there's any evidence or notion that it was due to some kind of "favoritism" to one religion or some other such thing.
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It should just be a rule to celebrate like Ochocinco

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CRUE CAB said:
Clearly you don't watch football or understand the game. But like I said, great job of deflecting from a obvious "in your face" prayer move. To more character assassination of Tim Tebow.
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I watch it plenty. Well enough to know that Dilfer didn't take the Ravens to the Superbowl because he was so great.

If Tebow was so great, wouldn't he be starting for the Jets? They clearly weren't happy with Sanchez, but for some reason Tebow stayed on the sidelines. Why did the Patriots release him? Wouldn't a guy who takes teams to the playoffs make a good backup to Brady?
 
TheNextEra said:
No, he sucked plain and simple. Not because he was a Christian. Now, take your OWN advice and stop talking about Tebow. You have mentioned him more than me. I love how YOU complain about my two posts being about Tebow and you have posted MORE than myself about him. Talk about hypocritical.
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I would rather talk about Tebow than some wannabe muslim illiterate wearing pads.
Was he facing Mecca? Was it at the ascribed time? Where was his rug? Otherwise he did it to piss people off. Period.
 
rocket88 said:
I watch it plenty. Well enough to know that Dilfer didn't take the Ravens to the Superbowl because he was so great.

If Tebow was so great, wouldn't he be starting for the Jets? They clearly weren't happy with Sanchez, but for some reason Tebow stayed on the sidelines. Why did the Patriots release him? Wouldn't a guy who takes teams to the playoffs make a good backup to Brady?
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Because they were too invested in Sanchez. Until a loser like Geno Smith showed up.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I would rather talk about Tebow than some wannabe muslim illiterate wearing pads.
Was he facing Mecca? Was it at the ascribed time? Where was his rug? Otherwise he did it to piss people off. Period.
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Sure you would, that is why you posted this:

CRUE CAB said:
Well good job to you and the others. An idiot makes a stupid end zone political statement. And now its all about Tebow.
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Your backpeddling is so loud people all the way in China can hear it.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Because they were too invested in Sanchez. Until a loser like Geno Smith showed up.
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No team is too invested in anybody that they'd bench a superstar in favor of "Meh..."
 
TheNextEra said:
Sure you would, that is why you posted this:



Your backpeddling is so loud people all the way in China can hear it.
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I was not the first one to bring up Tebow. But now instead of looking islamaphobic, lets make it about me. Good job. Deflect deflect deflect.
 
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