Police In Ferguson Lock Up Peaceful Daytime Protesters By Mistake, Chief Testifies

JasperL · Oct 9, 2014

Re: Police In Ferguson Lock Up Peaceful Daytime Protesters By Mistake, Chief Testifie

Excon said:
:doh
Yes I did. What do you not understand about miscommunication not being a lie?

I don't believe the "miscommunication" story. And I said the alternative is he is incompetent. Pick one.

Peaceful protestors?
iLOL :doh

If they were violent, no need to invoke a "5 second rule." Just arrest them for being violent. Obviously, they weren't being violent so were arrested for some other bogus reason.

Bogus rule?
:naughty
It is not a bogus rule. It is a rule used in specific circumstances as was misapplied.

Right, misapplied = bogus under the circumstances. I agree.

And frankly, protestors should not get to stop and block any peaceful citizens going about their own business.

That's 2 conditions - 1) stopped and 2) blocking peaceful citizens. You're moving the goalposts and adding conditions not required for the cops to harass or arrest people, which they did for violating only condition 1).

Don't care if you are or not. Your thoughts about it does not make it a lie as you claim.

As I said, there was another alternative....incompetent. And it is my opinion. Worth the same as yours!

Excon · Oct 9, 2014

Re: Police In Ferguson Lock Up Peaceful Daytime Protesters By Mistake, Chief Testifie

JasperL said:
I don't believe the "miscommunication" story.

That is your problem, especially as your disbelief doesn't mean he lied.
Which you have utterly failed to demonstrate.

JasperL said:
If they were violent, no need to invoke a "5 second rule." Just arrest them for being violent. Obviously, they weren't being violent so were arrested for some other bogus reason.

If you think trying to provoke the Officers into acting isn't violent than of course you wouldn't understand.
Not something they can out right arrest them for but none the less it is still violent behavior on their part.

JasperL said:
Right, misapplied = bogus under the circumstances.

What an absurd claim.
Misapplied doesn't make the law bogus.

JasperL said:
That's 2 conditions - 1) stopped and 2) blocking peaceful citizens. You're moving the goalposts and adding conditions not required for the cops to harass or arrest people, which they did for violating only condition 1).

No goal post moved.
They did it then and are still doing it in the streets at this very moment.

JasperL · Oct 10, 2014

Re: Police In Ferguson Lock Up Peaceful Daytime Protesters By Mistake, Chief Testifie

Excon said:
That is your problem, especially as your disbelief doesn't mean he lied.
Which you have utterly failed to demonstrate.

The alternative is incompetence. You keep ignoring that other option.

If you think trying to provoke the Officers into acting isn't violent than of course you wouldn't understand.
Not something they can out right arrest them for but none the less it is still violent behavior on their part.

Where is the evidence those arrested were trying to provoke the officers into "acting" - whatever that means?

What an absurd claim.
Misapplied doesn't make the law bogus.

It makes invoking the law bogus under the circumstances (emphasis added).

No goal post moved.
They did it then and are still doing it in the streets at this very moment.

First of all, you're assuming facts not in evidence. Second, they didn't arrest them for blocking traffic or other citizens, but JUST for not moving. I guess a photographer has to take pictures while walking, which is totally a fair expectation. And two people can't pause to speak to one another. Also a common sense requirement.....

Interesting that a conservative is basically taking the position that the only legitimate protest are those conducted in the narrow confines approved of by the government they're protesting and that don't pose any inconvenience to anyone. Maybe the town should set up a protest area, say an abandoned park on the outskirts of town, and limit all expressions of dissent to that narrow area? That way the people still have the "right" to speak, but no one has to hear them! Win win!

Excon · Oct 10, 2014

Re: Police In Ferguson Lock Up Peaceful Daytime Protesters By Mistake, Chief Testifie

JasperL said:
The alternative is incompetence. You keep ignoring that other option.

:doh
That is not "thee" alternative.
Mistakes happen without incompetence being involved.

JasperL said:
Where is the evidence those arrested were trying to provoke the officers into "acting" - whatever that means?

iLOL :doh
Failing to comply with orders is provoking the Officers to act.
They all should have just complied and complained later.

JasperL said:
It makes invoking the law bogus under the circumstances (emphasis added).

The law was still not bogus.

JasperL said:
First of all, you're assuming facts not in evidence.

No, I am not.
"They did it then and are still doing it in the streets at this very moment" was a correct statement. Or did you not see what they crap they did last night?

JasperL said:
Second, they didn't arrest them for blocking traffic or other citizens, but JUST for not moving.

Failing to keep moving blocks traffic, whether it be by pedestrians or vehicles. Are you really going to pretend not to know that?

JasperL said:
I guess a photographer has to take pictures while walking, which is totally a fair expectation. And two people can't pause to speak to one another. Also a common sense requirement.....

There was disruptive demonstrations. The police were trying to control the disruptions. They made a mistake in application, get over it.

JasperL said:
Interesting that a conservative is

WTH are you talking about? Conservative?
Wut?