Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

Top Cat · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
They are trending back upwards again, precisely because much of the fear spawned by that epidemic has died down, and the current generation and the culture which shaped it is more tolerant and encouraging of promiscuous behavior as such

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sangha · Sep 30, 2014

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He's as obsessed with those two as Woody Allen

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

sangha said:
Nonsense.

The damage caused by untreated Chlamydia and Gonorrhea are basically identical.

STD Fact Sheet - Gonorrhea

What happens if I don’t get treated?

Untreated gonorrhea can cause serious and permanent health problems in both women and men.

In women, untreated gonorrhea can cause pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). Some of the complications of PID are
Formation of scar tissue that blocks fallopian tubesExternal Web Site Icon;
Ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy outside the wombExternal Web Site Icon);
InfertilityExternal Web Site Icon (inability to get pregnant);
Long-term pelvic/abdominal pain.

In men, gonorrhea can cause a painful condition in the tubes attached to the testicles. In rare cases, this may cause a man to be sterile, or prevent him from being able to father a child.
Rarely, untreated gonorrhea can also spread to your blood or joints. This condition can be life-threatening.

Untreated gonorrhea may also increase your chances of getting or giving HIV – the virus that causes AIDS.

STD Fact Sheet - Chlamydia

What happens if I don't get treated?

If you are a woman, untreated chlamydia can spread to your uterus and fallopian tubes (tubes that carry fertilized eggs from the ovaries to the uterus), causing pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). PID often has no symptoms, however some women may have abdominal and pelvic pain. Even if it doesn’t cause symptoms initially, PID can cause permanent damage to your reproductive system and lead to long-term pelvic pain, inability to get pregnant, and potentially deadly ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy outside the uterus).

Men rarely have health problems linked to chlamydia. Infection sometimes spreads to the tube that carries sperm from the testicles, causing pain and fever. Rarely, chlamydia can prevent a man from being able to have children.

Untreated chlamydia may also increase your chances of getting or giving HIV – the virus that causes AIDS.

Herpes can also not only kill newborns, but suppress the immune system in a manner similar to HIV, if left untreated.

Untreated Herpes

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
The damage caused by untreated Chlamydia and Gonorrhea are basically identical...

...Herpes can also not only kill newborns, but suppress the immune system in a manner similar to HIV, if left untreated.

Most cases are treated. Before the sexual revolution, a higher rate of STD's went untreated

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

Top Cat said:
Be responsible. Wrap that little thing.

What are you telling me for? Tell that to the 110 million people living in this country with STDs, or the 20 million people who are newly infected each year.

Oh, wait. I forgot. You're too busy encouraging them to go out and "get laid" to bother. :lol:

The Sky is Falling!!!! Someone else got laid!

That isn't a fact. That is your ill-informed opinion.

Chicken Little would be so proud.

We're trillions of dollars in debt, we're a laughing stock internationally, our economy sucks with no real hope of recovery in sight, our population is one hiccup in immigration away from being in full on decline, and we're fast approaching the point in our society where welfare recipients outnumber people who actually work for a living.

Yeaaa... We're doing juuuust fine.

Top Cat said:
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If the shoe fits...

sangha said:
Most cases are treated. Before the sexual revolution, a higher rate of STD's went untreated

There were fewer STDs in general than there are today.

We basically waste billions of dollars each year treating epidemics which wouldn't exist at all if people simply had the common sense to keep their assorted genitalia in their pants.

Top Cat · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
What are you telling me for? Tell that to the 110 million people living in this country with STDs, or the 20 million people who are newly infected each year.

Oh, wait. I forgot. You're too busy encouraging them to go out and "get laid" to bother. :lol:

I also said wrap the rascal. How conveniently you left that off. Perhaps yours is too small to fit into a wrapper?

We're trillions of dollars in debt, we're a laughing stock internationally, our economy sucks with no real hope of recovery in sight, our population is one hiccup in immigration away from being in full on decline, and we're fast approaching the point in our society where welfare recipients outnumber people who actually work for a living.

Of course, it's those damned liberals that are ruining the world. :roll::roll:

Yeaaa... We're doing juuuust fine.

Actually I am doing quite well. Thanks for asking. I haven't been to church in 40 years. All good here.

There were fewer STDs in general than there are today.

Honestly, life hasn't changed. That's nonsense. Ask Socrates.

We basically waste billions of dollars each year treating epidemics which wouldn't exist if people simply had the common sense to keep their assorted genitalia in their pants.

If only they would pray more.

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

Top Cat said:
I also said wrap the rascal. How conveniently you left that off. Perhaps yours is too small to fit into a wrapper?

Well'p, I hate to break it to you, but the fundamentally shallow and immature kinds of people most likely to accept your version of sexuality, are also the least likely to be sexually responsible.

Go figure, right?

Of course, it's those damned liberals that are ruining the world.

They're certainly not helping matters. :lol:

Actually I am doing quite well.

Because it's all about you, right?

Honestly, life hasn't changed. That's nonsense. Ask Socrates.

The numbers tell a different story.

If only they would pray more.

If only.

smb · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Well'p, I hate to break it to you, but the fundamentally shallow and immature kinds of people most likely to accept your version of sexuality, are also the least likely to be sexually responsible.

Go figure, right?

They're certainly not helping matters. :lol:

Because it's all about you, right?

The numbers tell a different story.

If only.

Let's all pray the sex out of ourselves. I mean if you cannot suppress millions of years of evolution, ingrained genetic wiring and species self-preservation by repeating some words then whats the use of living.

Top Cat · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Well'p, I hate to break it to you, but the fundamentally shallow and immature kinds of people most likely to accept your version of sexuality, are also the least likely to be sexually responsible.

You keep throwing your ill-informed opinion out there as if it's a fact. Go figure?

The numbers tell a different story.

The one's you're pulling out of the dark place?

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Well'p, I hate to break it to you, but the fundamentally shallow and immature kinds of people most likely to accept your version of sexuality, are also the least likely to be sexually responsible.

Go figure, right?

Actually, it's the right family values crowd that are most likely to be sexually irresponsible

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

smb said:
Let's all pray the sex out of ourselves. I mean if you cannot suppress millions of years of evolution, ingrained genetic wiring and species self-preservation by repeating some words then whats the use of living.

It worked well enough for the first 10,000 or so years of human civilization. :shrug:

It's only in the last fifty years that we've really dropped the ball.

Are you saying that we're less capable of controlling ourselves than the dirt farming peasants and barbarians who were our ancestors?

That's pretty sad, if true.

Though... I wouldn't say that it's exactly surprising, given the current state of our culture. :roll:

Top Cat said:
You keep throwing your ill-informed opinion out there as if it's a fact. Go figure?

The one's you're pulling out of the dark place?

sangha said:
Actually, it's the right family values crowd that are most likely to be sexually irresponsible

"De Nile" is not only a river in Egypt, you know. :lol:

JasperL · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
It worked well enough for the first 10,000 or so years of human civilization. :shrug:

It's only in the last fifty years that we've really dropped the ball.

Weird -the pill hit 50 years old in 2010.... I guess Santorum is right - ban birth control (or at least allow states TO ban contraceptives....)!

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
It worked well enough for the first 10,000 or so years of human civilization. :shrug:

It's only in the last fifty years that we've really dropped the ball.

In the last 50 years, the STD rate has held fairly steady

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

sangha said:
In the last 50 years, the STD rate has held fairly steady

No, it really has not.

Even ignoring the fact that your chart starts in 1966, right smack dab in the middle of the Sexual Revolution, when you take each disease individually...

Gonnorhea

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It is clear that just about all of them (with the exception of Gonorrhea and Syphilis, which were removed through antibotics) are more common now than they were in the past, and just about all diseases (with the exception of Herpes, which has seen near constant expansion, and Chlamydia, which was not widely tested for until recently) basically peaked at the height of the Sexual Revolution.

Gonorrhea and Syphilis are actually in the middle of a come back right now as well, largely due to the rise of antibiotic resistant strains spread by promiscuous persons.

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
No, it really has not.

Even ignoring the fact that your chart starts right smack dab in the middle of the Sexual Revolution,

You're the one who specified the time period. You mentioned "50 years" and the baseline year. It's not my fault you made up a year to base your claim on

when you take each disease individually...
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Taking each disease individually is not how you show what has happened to the rate of all STD's in total. My chart shows the grand total, and it shows it being about where it was 50 years ago

BTW, your gonorrhea chart shows that it's now lower than it has been in the past. It's height predates the sexual revolution

Whoops!!! there goes another of your inane claims

Thrilla · Sep 30, 2014

Erod said:
Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

Liberal academia is such a wholesome and productive way to prepare yourself for a career nowdays.

Where do I sign my daughters up for this?!

in all likelihood, it's gonna be a sausage-fest.... and the "men" that will be there still won't be getting laid.

but hey, at least they are getting their moneys worth for those incredibly high tuition rates.

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

sangha said:
Taking each disease individually is not how you show what has happened to the rate of all STD's in total. My chart shows the grand total, and it shows it being about where it was 50 years ago

Well, I'm sorry, but you were mistaken. Basically all diseases were more prevalent during and after the sexual Revolution than they were before.

They only exceptions to this are Syphilis and Gonorrhea, which, as I already noted, were made less prevalent through the use of antibiotics, and have since experienced a resurgence due to the development of antibiotic resistant strains.

BTW, your gonorrhea chart shows that it's now lower than it has been in the past.

Yes, which I accounted for in my post.

Gathomas88 said:
(with the exception of Gonorrhea and Syphilis, which were removed through antibotics)...

Gonorrhea and Syphilis are actually in the middle of a come back right now as well, largely due to the rise of antibiotic resistant strains spread by promiscuous persons.

Why don't you learn how to read?

It's height predates the sexual revolution

To the contrary, as anyone who is actually capable of reading the chart can see, Gonorrhea's peak was from 1971 through to roughly 1980. That was basically the heyday of the Sexual Revolution, back before AIDs came onto the scene in force.

Whoops!!! there goes another of your inane claims! :roll:

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Well, I'm sorry, but you were mistaken. Basically all diseases were more prevalent during and after the sexual Revolution than they were before.

They only exceptions to this are Syphilis and Gonorrhea, which, as I already noted, were made less prevalent through the use of antibiotics, and have since experienced a resurgence due to the development of antibiotic resistant strains.

WHy yes, if you ignore the two STD's which were most rampant before the SR, the others were not as rampant before the SR

That was brilliant, gath. Well played, Sir

But I was wrong about the gonorrhea rate hitting its' height before SR. That was syphillis

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

sangha said:
WHy yes, if you ignore the two STD's which were most rampant before the SR, the others were not as rampant before the SR

That was brilliant, gath. Well played, Sir

But I was wrong about the gonorrhea rate hitting its' height before SR. That was syphillis

The simple fact of the matter is that no where near 30% of the entire US population was infected with STDs prior to the Sexual Revolution. This was true regardless of the presence of Syphilis.

Hell! Even today, the entire developing world, which lacks access to many of the antibiotics which lead to its decline here, is only estimated to be dealing with around 30 million or so cases of the disease in total.

Global Incidence and Prevalence of Selected Curable Sexually Transmitted Infections - 2008

STD rates in the developed world have basically exploded since the 1950s, because basically every other disease out there, besides Gonorrhea and Syphilis, has exploded as well. All of our accumulated screwing around has even lead to creation of all new diseases, to carry the problem further!

Not only that, but the diseases mentioned above have increasingly become hallmarks of the Middle Classes, rather than the dregs of society where they were limited beforehand.

The problem is nothing less than the just desserts of the depraved heights of excess and idiocy inherent to our current culture personified.

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
The simple fact of the matter is that no where near 30% of the entire US population was infected with STDs prior to the Sexual Revolution. This was true regardless of the presence of Syphilis.

I have posted the graph which proves that the infection rate 50 years ago was almost the same as it is today (ie around 800 per 100k)

And the STD rate is highest in red "family value" type states.

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

sangha said:
I have posted the graph which proves that the infection rate 50 years ago was almost the same as it is today (ie around 800 per 100k)

I'm sorry, but the chart you posted is wrong.

The only category it lists as being anywhere near the levels seen today is the gray "other diseases" category.

Other charts, also from the CDC, flat out contradict that notion.

And the STD rate is highest in red "family value" type states.

According to? :roll:

Generally speaking, STDs are tied far more heavily to urban and minority populations than political lean.

NYC, for instance, actually has the highest AIDs rate in the whole country.

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
I'm sorry, but the chart you posted is wrong.

The only category it lists as being anywhere near the levels seen today is the gray "other diseases" category.

Other charts, also from the CDC, flat out contradict that notion.

So my CDC chart is wrong because your CDC chart says something different? :screwy

The answer is "because they're counting different things under "other STD's". You'd know that if you traced back the data they're sourced on.

According to? :roll:

Fox News
State by state, where it

10. North Carolina
(10th for chlamydia, 6th for gonorrhea, 24th for syphilis)
9. New York
(11th for chlamydia, 16th for gonorrhea, 7th for syphilis)
8. Texas
(13th for chlamydia, 13th for gonorrhea, 6th for syphilis)
7. Illinois
(9th for chlamydia, 10th for gonorrhea, 8th for syphilis)
6. Arkansas
(7th for chlamydia, 7th for gonorrhea, 9th for syphilis)
5. South Carolina
(5th for chlamydia, 4th for gonorrhea, 13th for syphilis)
4. Alabama
(3rd for chlamydia, 3rd for gonorrhea, 15th for syphilis)
3. Georgia
(8th for chlamydia, 5th for gonorrhea, 1st for syphilis)
2. Mississippi
(1st for chlamydia, 1st for gonorrhea, 11th for syphilis)
1. Louisiana
(4th for chlamydia, 2nd for gonorrhea, 3rd for syphilis)

All but 2 of the worst 10 are in the bible belt

Gathomas88 · Sep 30, 2014

sangha said:
So my CDC chart is wrong because your CDC chart says something different? :screwy

The answer is "because they're counting different things under "other STD's". You'd know that if you traced back the data they're sourced on.

Feel free to explain it then. :shrug:

The simple fact of the matter is that what the first chart shows makes no damn sense, mathematically, culturally, historically, or otherwise.

Fox News
State by state, where it

All but 2 of the worst 10 are in the bible belt

A) None of these states but one are actually first in their category.

B) Illinois and New York are not "red states."

C) They all have huge minority populations, exactly like I said.

Edit:

And look at their "best" states for STDs.

1. West Virginia
(48th for chlamydia, 41st for gonorrhea, 49th for syphilis)
2. Maine
(49th for chlamydia, 44th for gonorrhea, 43rd for syphilis)
3. Vermont
(46th for chlamydia, 46th for gonorrhea, 44th for syphilis)
4. Utah
(47th for chlamydia, 45th for gonorrhea, 42nd for syphilis)
5. Wyoming
(37th for chlamydia, 50th for gonorrhea, 46th for syphilis)
6. Montana
(35th for chlamydia, 48th for gonorrhea, 50th for syphilis)
7. Idaho
(45th for chlamydia, 49th for gonorrhea, 38th for syphilis)
8. New Hampshire
(50th for chlamydia, 47th for gonorrhea, 30th for syphilis)
9. Nebraska
(38th for chlamydia, 32nd for gonorrhea, 48th for syphilis)
10. Minnesota
(43rd for chlamydia, 36th for gonorrhea, 34th for syphilis)

More than half are red states.

the_recruit · Sep 30, 2014

Young adults are interested in learning more about sexual relationships??!!! Oh noes!

sangha · Sep 30, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Feel free to explain it then. :shrug:

Request denied. I like it better when you make stuff up

The simple fact of the matter is that what the first chart shows makes no damn sense, mathematically, culturally, historically, or otherwise.

Case in point

A) None of these states but one are actually first in their category.

B) Illinois is not a "red state."

C) They all have huge minority populations, exactly like I said.

8 of the ten are red states and 8 are bible belt states.

It's biblical morality that causes sexual irresponsibility

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