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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Keep in mind that a good deal of that depends on the students own definitions as well. Three, non-exclusive, one night stands with the same person basically qualifies as a "relationship" for some people these days.

    In any case, the bottom line here is that no part of this thing works to accomplish better outcomes for students.

    If these courses actually are selling what they claim to be selling (and I don't care how you try to spin it, that is promiscuity), it is simply going to encourage dangerous and irresponsible behavior, and promote the kinds of unhealthy sexual attitudes which make it more common in the first place.

    If it's a bait and switch, on the other hand, luring students in with the promise of more sex, just to lecture them on how they should wait for relationships instead, no one is going to listen. They'll just keep right on doing what they've always done.

    Frankly, what I suspect that this is really going to be is a "perfect storm" of self-contradictory Left Wing social dogma; combining schizophrenic attitudes towards safe and responsible sex (i.e. promiscuity is fine, but make sure that it's healthy promiscuity), hearty input on the wonders of sexual deviancy from the "sex positive" brigade (Sure! You can masturbate 38 times a day! That's good for you!) , feminist pop-cultural nonsense that complicates the above to Hell and back (sex is great, but you're a rapist if she doesn't say 'yes' exactly X amount of times, and if your BAC is above X level, you're going to jail, and also, porn is demeaning, except when it's not), and maybe some minor tid-bits about putting condoms on bananas that everyone knows already tacked on just to cover the instructors' asses.

    Again, it's simply an example of misplaced progressive priorities all the way around.
    If neither student or at least one student doesn't know whether or not 3 different times hooking up with the same person is a "relationship", then perhaps they need to learn how to communicate better with the person they are having sex with, like these seminars claim to aim to do.

    Actually, you are simply making an assumption that this wouldn't be good for students. It is absolutely nothing but personal opinion based on bias against, from my viewpoint, what appears to be a problem with sex in general, outside of marriage at least.

    It is not going to encourage anything except actually communicating with sexual partners, and maybe practicing safe sex. There is no evidence that they would actually be encouraging anything dangerous or irresponsible. Having threesomes, despite your personal beliefs otherwise, is not dangerous or irresponsible. It can be, but it isn't guaranteed to be. Having sex outside of marriage is not automatically "dangerous and/or irresponsible". Again, it can be, but is not automatically.

    Your complaints are an example of prudish beliefs trying to justify being against these talks because they deal with sex in whatever way you possibly can without knowing really anything about this subject personally.
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I agree.

    Young men and women probably do need some reminders about safe sex and about date rape legalities and the like, but it shouldn't be promoting a 'how to negotiate .....' and 'O face, oral sex' techniques or other such nonsense which isn't in these young people's best interests.

    The fact these are being considered, have been considered, and received approval to proceed is a clear indicated just how far down the slippery slope the society has slid.
    Why should we not teach people to have better sex? I don't understand why people want to believe that having good, more pleasurable sex is wrong somehow. It is not a "slippery slope". It is simply about teaching people to communicate with each other what makes them feel good. It can easily be shown to be an important part of psychology.
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why should we not teach people to have better sex? I don't understand why people want to believe that having good, more pleasurable sex is wrong somehow. It is not a "slippery slope". It is simply about teaching people to communicate with each other what makes them feel good. It can easily be shown to be an important part of psychology.
    Not against good sex, nor against good communication.

    Isn't 1/2 the pleasure exploring for one's self, with your partner?

    Not having every possible combination laid out for you with pictures, videos and 'How To' manuals?
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If neither student or at least one student doesn't know whether or not 3 different times hooking up with the same person is a "relationship", then perhaps they need to learn how to communicate better with the person they are having sex with, like these seminars claim to aim to do.

    Actually, you are simply making an assumption that this wouldn't be good for students. It is absolutely nothing but personal opinion based on bias against, from my viewpoint, what appears to be a problem with sex in general, outside of marriage at least.

    It is not going to encourage anything except actually communicating with sexual partners, and maybe practicing safe sex. There is no evidence that they would actually be encouraging anything dangerous or irresponsible. Having threesomes, despite your personal beliefs otherwise, is not dangerous or irresponsible. It can be, but it isn't guaranteed to be. Having sex outside of marriage is not automatically "dangerous and/or irresponsible". Again, it can be, but is not automatically.

    Your complaints are an example of prudish beliefs trying to justify being against these talks because they deal with sex in whatever way you possibly can without knowing really anything about this subject personally.
    And it is only your "opinion" that any of the so called "communication" this nonsense is meant to bring about would even be remotely useful in the first place.

    Again, I'm not exactly sure what "communicational" or "relationship" value you think students are going to get out of courses promising to teach them how to more successfully acquire promiscuous sex, or deliver better blowjobs, in the first place. However, then again, I suppose that's roughly par for the course where Left Wing views of relationships dynamics in general are concerned.

    The bottom line here is that if you think premarital sex is some great thing that breeds healthy relationships, and that people should be having more of it, both you, and the university, need to keep that kind of sh*t to yourselves, in your own bedrooms. It is not a university's place to teach someone what is, or is not, a "healthy" relationship.

    Frankly, I can't imagine what kind of moron would trust any instruction such a course had to give in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, they're not even qualified to discuss such matters.

    After all, they're not providing any kind of objective "public service" here. They're simply proselytizing their own, completely subjective, sexual ideology. I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that a great many people out there believe that ideology to be fundamentally wrong, and don't want to have anything to do with it.

    It is completely out of bounds for a publicly funded university to so blatantly devote resources to spreading its ideals as such.
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Not against good sex, nor against good communication.

    Isn't 1/2 the pleasure exploring for one's self, with your partner?

    Not having every possible combination laid out for you with pictures, videos and 'How To' manuals?
    If you think good sex is merely an matter of following a set of instructions, you're doing it wrong.
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Not against good sex, nor against good communication.

    Isn't 1/2 the pleasure exploring for one's self, with your partner?

    Not having every possible combination laid out for you with pictures, videos and 'How To' manuals?
    If you don't know how to communicate about sex with your partner, you are not going to do it in all likelihood. We know this from studying people and what they say about sex and how they communicate with their partners or how their partners communicate with them.

    And there is nothing wrong with laying out how to make sex more pleasurable in a "how to" fashion, through instructions, so long as it includes communicating with your spouse whether or not that is actually pleasurable for you. If you know how to do something, at least something, going into a relationship, it can help to make the relationship better. That doesn't mean that you need to know every single way to make that other person happy during sex, nor every way that they can make you happy during sex, but rather some knowledge can help to build the relationship stronger to work toward that exploration for more knowledge.
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Looks like universities are not the only ones "promoting promiscuity"

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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Not against good sex, nor against good communication.

    Isn't 1/2 the pleasure exploring for one's self, with your partner?

    Not having every possible combination laid out for you with pictures, videos and 'How To' manuals?
    No one in their right mind would be.

    The problem here is that the above isn't what these classes are about in the first place. They are about spreading a certain worldview, and certain attitudes towards sexual behavior.

    They simply happen to be attitudes which a great many people find objectionable.

    No one needs some perverted Liberal professor to tell them how to have a "healthy relationship," especially not in the context the courses offered by this university seem to suggest.

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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And it is only your "opinion" that any of the so called "communication" this nonsense is meant to bring about would even be remotely useful in the first place.

    Again, I'm not exactly sure what "communicational" or "relationship" value you think students are going to get out of courses promising to teach them how to more successfully acquire promiscuous sex, or deliver better blowjobs, in the first place. However, then again, I suppose that's roughly par for the course where Left Wing views of relationships dynamics in general are concerned.

    The bottom line here is that if you think premarital sex is some great thing that breeds healthy relationships, and that people should be having more of it, both you, and the university, need to keep that kind of sh*t to yourselves, in your own bedrooms. It is not a university's place to teach someone what is, or is not, a "healthy" relationship.

    Frankly, I can't imagine what kind of moron would trust any instruction such a course had to give in the first place.

    After all, they're not providing any kind of "public service" here. They're simply proselytizing their own, completely subjective, sexual ideology. I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that a great many people out there believe that ideology to be fundamentally wrong, and don't want to have anything to do with it.

    It is completely out of bounds for a publicly funded university to so blatantly devote resources to spreading its ideals as such.
    Wrong. This has been studied extensively and they have found that people who are able to communicate with their sexual partner in bed have better sex lives, are happier in their sexual activities, practice safer sex, are in healthier sexual relationships, and much more. And this is throughout their lives.

    Having a great sex life – the importance of communication

    Talking About Sex During Sex Is Good for Sex

    Pillow Talk: Communication Following Sex | Psychology Today

    Premarital sex can be a good thing, when done in a healthy way. People are simply not perfect and don't know themselves very well, especially not at younger ages, but still have a sex drive. So it is important to direct that sex drive toward healthy and safe sexual encounters rather than trying to force an unrealistic standard on those young people.

    Many people feel that talking about sex, especially sexual interactions they don't "approve of" is wrong because they wrongly believe that simply talking about such things encourages those things.

    It is not out of bounds at all for a university to encourage students to learn how to have safer, healthier sex, including psychologically healthier.
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    Re: Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And it is only your "opinion" that any of the so called "communication" this nonsense is meant to bring about would even be remotely useful in the first place.

    Again, I'm not exactly sure what "communicational" or "relationship" value you think students are going to get out of courses promising to teach them how to more successfully acquire promiscuous sex, or deliver better blowjobs, in the first place. However, then again, I suppose that's roughly par for the course where Left Wing views of relationships dynamics in general are concerned.
    I don't see how a healthy sex life is automatically promiscuous. These courses aren't telling people to be indiscriminate or unselective with whom they have sex, so using the word is stupid here. And what's wrong with delivering better blowjobs? That in itself requires good communication as there is no set formula to the matter as it changes with every individual.

    The bottom line here is that if you think premarital sex is some great thing that breeds healthy relationships, and that people should be having more of it, both you, and the university, need to keep that kind of sh*t to yourselves, in your own bedrooms. It is not a university's place to teach someone what is, or is not, a "healthy" relationship.
    Sure it is.

    After all, they're not providing any kind of objective "public service" here. They're simply proselytizing their own, completely subjective, sexual ideology. I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that a great many people out there believe that ideology to be fundamentally wrong, and don't want to have anything to do with it.

    It is completely out of bounds for a publicly funded university to so blatantly devote resources to spreading its ideals as such.
    No it's not, just like it is not "completely out of bounds" for a publicly funded university to teach evolution even though "a great many people out there believe that...to be fundamentally wrong, and don't want to have anything to do with it."
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